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It's funny how these videos say they're intended to spread love and encourage random acts of kindness, but the actual effect of them is decreasing trust in stra

by naillo 4y ago

It's funny how these videos say they're intended to spread love and encourage random acts of kindness, but the actual effect of them is decreasing trust in strangers (that they might be filming us for their tiktok). This makes me not trust anyone that goes up to me in the street.

headsoup 4y ago
I would like to ask this tiktok guy how often he does his random acts of kindness without the camera rolling...
- hef19898 4y ago
  His spokespeople will be happy to answer that question for him.
  - ushakov 4y ago
    why the hell does a TikToker need a spokesperson at all? ego boost?
    - powerhour 4y ago
      Same reason I have someone change my oil -- I don't want to spend the time myself, I can afford it, and they'll probably do a better job.
      - Sporktacular 4y ago
        You're right. His team of image consultants, publicist and spokesman are probably best able to handle this.
        Sporktacular 4y ago
        Yeah, it's called sarcasm guys. Grandparent's question was rhetorical, as to say 'that seems out of keeping with a low budget tiktok producer'. Parent goes on to explain why anyone would conceivably have a spokesman. Sheesh.
    - dymk 4y ago
      To manage negative PR
    - pennaMan 4y ago
      when you make money by manipulation and lies you're gonna have to hire a spokesperson at some point to manage your web of lies. See politicians, institutions of the state, corporations, tiktokers, etc
      - prox 4y ago
        In the future everyone will have their 15 minutes of exploitation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame
    - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
      Possibly he doesn't even have one but just pretends to talk through a spokesperson. Gives you a fake fall person
- mcv 4y ago
  Exactly. Actual kindness doesn't need a camera and takes into account what the recipient of your kindness actually needs. This was just some guy taking advantage of someone for internet points.
- charcircuit 4y ago
  If you are doing a random act of kindness you might as well film it too. Is there any incentive not to film it?
  - fleddr 4y ago
    Yes, it's called common courtesy.
winternett 4y ago
So much of the content I see now on TikTok and other apps is totally staged, and quite often poorly staged at that. It would be interesting to know who funds the production of many of the videos, because there's obviously an advertising scheme or some sort of moneymaking ploy behind a lot of it. I think things really took off with the people who were making "gold-digger" videos, where a guy tries to talk to a girl and she rejects him, only to come back when he walks up to a (most likely rented) exotic car. In many of these cases, all of the people involved in the video are not authentic, but there's never disclaimer that the video is staged or a skit. Even car accidents, sad stories of addiction and mental illness, and stunts can all be staged to gain views as well. I'm skeptical of everything I see online, been that way for a long time... Worst part is there is no real way to avoid that type of content, and that phony content often gets plastered across all the sites, and reposted for years too come, and even written about when it's exposed as fake, so there's no real way to avoid it, and there's no incentive for people to stop doing it because of the (negative) popularity it breeds for the people and companies that sponsor and create it.
- hk1337 4y ago
  At least if it's staged you know all the parties are in on it and it's not leaving someone "holding the bag".
  - deleted 4y ago
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- btilly 4y ago
  The staged stuff doesn't bother me as much as the dangerous stuff: https://www.fastcompany.com/90287323/people-are-falling-off-buildings-in-search-of-the-perfect-instagram-shot https://www.fastcompany.com/90287323/people-are-falling-off-...
  - branon 4y ago
    Natural selection at work.
sva_ 4y ago
With the amount of beggars in cities, I already highly distrust anyone who comes up to me to speak to me. 99 out of 100 times it is someone who tries to somehow enrich themselves.
- naillo 4y ago
  Please be more empathetic to people who beg for money.
  - upupandup 4y ago
    - revolvingocelot 4y ago
      Arguments of the form "So $MISREPRESENTATION_OF_STATED_OPINION" are disappointing to see here. I don't think you really think that the grandparent is suggesting that to be "more empathetic to people who beg for money" is to invite them to Thanksgiving or give them your bed. Consider visiting Reddit, where discourse of the form "So $MISREPRESENTATION_OF_STATED_OPINION" is more accepted.
      - upupandup 4y ago
        phpnode 4y ago
        that's not what empathy means, you don't have to house someone to feel empathy for them. In this case, I'd say don't judge them so harshly because they're a product of a failing social system. They're the consequence of society's collective decisions and priorities.
        deleted 4y ago
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    - tuxie_ 4y ago
de6u99er 4y ago
What they are intendet to do, is generate views and likes for the owner(s) of the channel.
giarc 4y ago
Let's be honest though, they aren't intended to spread love and kindness, they are intended to get views. It's nothing more than a ruse to get views. If the creator was so inclined to spread love and kindness, he'd donate some of the millions he makes off these exploitive videos to charities.
- yawaramin 4y ago
  However he did pay for groceries for a few randos, so that completely balances it out.
- ComputerCat 4y ago
  I think true acts of kindness are difficult to achieve because something that you might find "kind", I might not, and vice versa. I think if you truly want to make people happy and do nice things for them you need to know them, their situation, what they're doing well with, what they're struggling with. Being tricked into holding random flowers wouldn't have made my day.
  - greyhair 4y ago
    True acts of random kindness are rare only because most people aren't in need of random help that often. There is a wide range of things that would fall under the umbrella of 'just being polite' that are more expected social behavior than actual kindness. And you can be kind to people that aren't in dire straights or in need.

by naillo 4y ago

headsoup 4y ago

I would like to ask this tiktok guy how often he does his random acts of kindness without the camera rolling...

hef19898 4y ago
His spokespeople will be happy to answer that question for him.
- ushakov 4y ago
  why the hell does a TikToker need a spokesperson at all? ego boost?
  - powerhour 4y ago
    Same reason I have someone change my oil -- I don't want to spend the time myself, I can afford it, and they'll probably do a better job.
    - Sporktacular 4y ago
      You're right. His team of image consultants, publicist and spokesman are probably best able to handle this.
      - Sporktacular 4y ago
        Yeah, it's called sarcasm guys. Grandparent's question was rhetorical, as to say 'that seems out of keeping with a low budget tiktok producer'. Parent goes on to explain why anyone would conceivably have a spokesman. Sheesh.
  - dymk 4y ago
    To manage negative PR
  - pennaMan 4y ago
    when you make money by manipulation and lies you're gonna have to hire a spokesperson at some point to manage your web of lies. See politicians, institutions of the state, corporations, tiktokers, etc
    - prox 4y ago
      In the future everyone will have their 15 minutes of exploitation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame
  - weird-eye-issue 4y ago
    Possibly he doesn't even have one but just pretends to talk through a spokesperson. Gives you a fake fall person
mcv 4y ago
Exactly. Actual kindness doesn't need a camera and takes into account what the recipient of your kindness actually needs. This was just some guy taking advantage of someone for internet points.
charcircuit 4y ago
If you are doing a random act of kindness you might as well film it too. Is there any incentive not to film it?
- fleddr 4y ago
  Yes, it's called common courtesy.

winternett 4y ago

So much of the content I see now on TikTok and other apps is totally staged, and quite often poorly staged at that. It would be interesting to know who funds the production of many of the videos, because there's obviously an advertising scheme or some sort of moneymaking ploy behind a lot of it. I think things really took off with the people who were making "gold-digger" videos, where a guy tries to talk to a girl and she rejects him, only to come back when he walks up to a (most likely rented) exotic car. In many of these cases, all of the people involved in the video are not authentic, but there's never disclaimer that the video is staged or a skit. Even car accidents, sad stories of addiction and mental illness, and stunts can all be staged to gain views as well. I'm skeptical of everything I see online, been that way for a long time... Worst part is there is no real way to avoid that type of content, and that phony content often gets plastered across all the sites, and reposted for years too come, and even written about when it's exposed as fake, so there's no real way to avoid it, and there's no incentive for people to stop doing it because of the (negative) popularity it breeds for the people and companies that sponsor and create it.

hk1337 4y ago
At least if it's staged you know all the parties are in on it and it's not leaving someone "holding the bag".
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
btilly 4y ago
The staged stuff doesn't bother me as much as the dangerous stuff: https://www.fastcompany.com/90287323/people-are-falling-off-buildings-in-search-of-the-perfect-instagram-shot https://www.fastcompany.com/90287323/people-are-falling-off-...
- branon 4y ago
  Natural selection at work.

sva_ 4y ago

With the amount of beggars in cities, I already highly distrust anyone who comes up to me to speak to me. 99 out of 100 times it is someone who tries to somehow enrich themselves.

naillo 4y ago
Please be more empathetic to people who beg for money.
- upupandup 4y ago
  - revolvingocelot 4y ago
    Arguments of the form "So $MISREPRESENTATION_OF_STATED_OPINION" are disappointing to see here. I don't think you really think that the grandparent is suggesting that to be "more empathetic to people who beg for money" is to invite them to Thanksgiving or give them your bed. Consider visiting Reddit, where discourse of the form "So $MISREPRESENTATION_OF_STATED_OPINION" is more accepted.
    - upupandup 4y ago
      - phpnode 4y ago
        that's not what empathy means, you don't have to house someone to feel empathy for them. In this case, I'd say don't judge them so harshly because they're a product of a failing social system. They're the consequence of society's collective decisions and priorities.
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
  - tuxie_ 4y ago

de6u99er 4y ago

What they are intendet to do, is generate views and likes for the owner(s) of the channel.

giarc 4y ago

Let's be honest though, they aren't intended to spread love and kindness, they are intended to get views. It's nothing more than a ruse to get views. If the creator was so inclined to spread love and kindness, he'd donate some of the millions he makes off these exploitive videos to charities.

yawaramin 4y ago
However he did pay for groceries for a few randos, so that completely balances it out.
ComputerCat 4y ago
I think true acts of kindness are difficult to achieve because something that you might find "kind", I might not, and vice versa. I think if you truly want to make people happy and do nice things for them you need to know them, their situation, what they're doing well with, what they're struggling with. Being tricked into holding random flowers wouldn't have made my day.
- greyhair 4y ago
  True acts of random kindness are rare only because most people aren't in need of random help that often. There is a wide range of things that would fall under the umbrella of 'just being polite' that are more expected social behavior than actual kindness. And you can be kind to people that aren't in dire straights or in need.