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Folks, we are all going to die. Live life well, make sensible decisions, eat well, get outside, exercise, socialize. The rest is noise. Do you want to be min-ma

by cnity 4y ago

Folks, we are all going to die. Live life well, make sensible decisions, eat well, get outside, exercise, socialize. The rest is noise. Do you want to be min-maxing every facet of your life?

jeffreygoesto 4y ago
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monkey_monkey 4y ago
No, but we want to reduce risks of terrible conditions such as Alzheimer's wherever possible, especially if we can do so by simply getting more sleep.
banach 4y ago
While the importance of getting enough good sleep has recently become mainstream, we are still living in a culture where just striking a balance between work and a personal life is an unattainable goal for many people. We should really be talking about work/life/sleep balance, since excelling at the former two easily come at the cost of the latter. As the article highlights, sleep seems like a facet that is important to optimize above most others.
- LocalH 4y ago
  > we are still living in a culture where just striking a balance between work and a personal life is an unattainable goal for many people This is a systemic issue. Society needs to learn that mental health needs to be the #1 priority. From there, people will prosper in many ways.
rattray 4y ago
> Do you want to be min-maxing every facet of your life? I've been sleeping less than 6-7h consistently for the past few weeks, and if that'll cause permanent damage to my brain/memory, I absolutely want to prioritize a fix more urgently. I generally proscribe to satisficing, and wouldn't want to freak out if I missed 30-60min here or there, especially if I still pretty fine, but I value my faculties.
- balfirevic 4y ago
  Regardless of long-term effects, do you suffer when you sleep like that? To me, it's like torture, I don't really need additional long-term risks to absolutely not want to do it.
  - hallway_monitor 4y ago
    Also, discomfort is usually your body giving you a hint: stop doing that. If the amount of sleep you get leaves you feeling good, there is very little chance you are hurting yourself.
  - rattray 4y ago
    Usually yes, for some reason the past few weeks I've felt fine. Maybe just because I've been so busy/energized, maybe because I've been doing yoga every morning and exercising during the days, maybe something else.
  - nostrebored 4y ago
    Six hours is definitely not something that makes me uncomfortable over the mid term (multiple years) but eventually catches up. Four hours doesn't feel uncomfortable for me until about a month or two of sustained low sleep.
achenet 4y ago
I've met people who pride themselves on only sleeping 4 hours a night because they're too busy "working hard" for 18hours at the office. This article could really help them.
thenerdhead 4y ago
If you spend 1/3 of your life sleeping, I don’t think it’s min-maxing. If it was something else, would totally agree with your point.
rramadass 4y ago
>Live life well, make sensible decisions, eat well, get outside, exercise, socialize. Sleep Deprivation over extended time periods negatively affects all of the above. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK19961/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK19961/ The public health consequences of sleep loss and sleep-related disorders are far from benign. The most visible consequences are errors in judgment contributing to disastrous events such as the space shuttle Challenger (Walsh et al., 2005). Less visible consequences of sleep conditions are far more prevalent, and they take a toll on nearly every key indicator of public health: mortality, morbidity, performance, accidents and injuries, functioning and quality of life, family well-being, and health care utilization. Some of these consequences, such as automobile crashes, occur acutely within hours (or minutes) of the sleep disorder, and thus are relatively easy to link to sleep problems. Others—for example, obesity and hypertension—develop more insidiously over months and years of chronic sleep problems. After decades of research, the case can be confidently made that sleep loss and sleep disorders have profound and widespread effects on human health. Also see https://www.healthline.com/health/sleep-deprivation/effects-on-body https://www.healthline.com/health/sleep-deprivation/effects-...
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> Live life well Nobody with sleep deprivation is doing this.
manigandham 4y ago
Seems like sleep, which is a third of your life and has a impact on the other two-thirds, is a very big factor to "live life well". Do you really consider it noise?

by cnity 4y ago

Folks, we are all going to die. Live life well, make sensible decisions, eat well, get outside, exercise, socialize. The rest is noise. Do you want to be min-maxing every facet of your life?

jeffreygoesto 4y ago

This. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/05/7d/fe/057dfe195dd1b207ee4e5777ac3b345b.gif https://i.pinimg.com/originals/05/7d/fe/057dfe195dd1b207ee4e...

monkey_monkey 4y ago

No, but we want to reduce risks of terrible conditions such as Alzheimer's wherever possible, especially if we can do so by simply getting more sleep.

banach 4y ago

While the importance of getting enough good sleep has recently become mainstream, we are still living in a culture where just striking a balance between work and a personal life is an unattainable goal for many people. We should really be talking about work/life/sleep balance, since excelling at the former two easily come at the cost of the latter. As the article highlights, sleep seems like a facet that is important to optimize above most others.

LocalH 4y ago
> we are still living in a culture where just striking a balance between work and a personal life is an unattainable goal for many people This is a systemic issue. Society needs to learn that mental health needs to be the #1 priority. From there, people will prosper in many ways.

rattray 4y ago

> Do you want to be min-maxing every facet of your life? I've been sleeping less than 6-7h consistently for the past few weeks, and if that'll cause permanent damage to my brain/memory, I absolutely want to prioritize a fix more urgently. I generally proscribe to satisficing, and wouldn't want to freak out if I missed 30-60min here or there, especially if I still pretty fine, but I value my faculties.

balfirevic 4y ago
Regardless of long-term effects, do you suffer when you sleep like that? To me, it's like torture, I don't really need additional long-term risks to absolutely not want to do it.
- hallway_monitor 4y ago
  Also, discomfort is usually your body giving you a hint: stop doing that. If the amount of sleep you get leaves you feeling good, there is very little chance you are hurting yourself.
- rattray 4y ago
  Usually yes, for some reason the past few weeks I've felt fine. Maybe just because I've been so busy/energized, maybe because I've been doing yoga every morning and exercising during the days, maybe something else.
- nostrebored 4y ago
  Six hours is definitely not something that makes me uncomfortable over the mid term (multiple years) but eventually catches up. Four hours doesn't feel uncomfortable for me until about a month or two of sustained low sleep.

achenet 4y ago

I've met people who pride themselves on only sleeping 4 hours a night because they're too busy "working hard" for 18hours at the office. This article could really help them.

thenerdhead 4y ago

If you spend 1/3 of your life sleeping, I don’t think it’s min-maxing. If it was something else, would totally agree with your point.

rramadass 4y ago

>Live life well, make sensible decisions, eat well, get outside, exercise, socialize. Sleep Deprivation over extended time periods negatively affects all of the above. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK19961/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK19961/ The public health consequences of sleep loss and sleep-related disorders are far from benign. The most visible consequences are errors in judgment contributing to disastrous events such as the space shuttle Challenger (Walsh et al., 2005). Less visible consequences of sleep conditions are far more prevalent, and they take a toll on nearly every key indicator of public health: mortality, morbidity, performance, accidents and injuries, functioning and quality of life, family well-being, and health care utilization. Some of these consequences, such as automobile crashes, occur acutely within hours (or minutes) of the sleep disorder, and thus are relatively easy to link to sleep problems. Others—for example, obesity and hypertension—develop more insidiously over months and years of chronic sleep problems. After decades of research, the case can be confidently made that sleep loss and sleep disorders have profound and widespread effects on human health. Also see https://www.healthline.com/health/sleep-deprivation/effects-on-body https://www.healthline.com/health/sleep-deprivation/effects-...

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> Live life well Nobody with sleep deprivation is doing this.

manigandham 4y ago

Seems like sleep, which is a third of your life and has a impact on the other two-thirds, is a very big factor to "live life well". Do you really consider it noise?