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Maybe these superhuman marketers with perfect understanding of human behavior exist, but since I've never met one it's hard for me to picture. What does it matt

by vasco 4y ago

Maybe these superhuman marketers with perfect understanding of human behavior exist, but since I've never met one it's hard for me to picture. What does it matter when the cycles are? Is it to try and sell pain medication for the low percentage of women that suffer during it? Whenever these stories are told you'd think someone is achieving world domination, but my suspicion is that the large majority of companies can't even do anything very interesting with this data that they collect unethically.

krageon 4y ago
The harm is real, even if you try to ridicule it. None of your refutation is founded on the reality of the harm (or what was claimed, AFAICT). This is called a strawman.
- vasco 4y ago
  But I didn't say there was no harm? I asked for examples as it's hard for me to picture them. Another commenter gave a good example of how government agencies can use this data for nefarious things, I was originally curious of ways of profiting from knowing what was initially discussed, when the cycle is. I think because the topic is charged you saw ridicule where there was none.
lelandfe 4y ago
Missouri officials used women's menstrual cycle data in 2019 in a quest to shut down the state's last abortion clinic.[0] This was legal due to a lack of HIPAA restrictions. It would not be difficult to use this data in a post-Roe US to litigate against abortions. > companies can't even do anything very interesting with this data that they collect I'm not concerned about the companies. I'm concerned about domestic agencies that purchase that data to workaround restrictions that prevent them from collecting it.[1][2][3][4](stretching to inf.) Like your parent commenter stated, this is to avoid Fourth Amendment restrictions. [0] https://time.com/5713804/missouri-health-official-planned-parenthood-periods/ https://time.com/5713804/missouri-health-official-planned-pa... [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/treasury-watchdog-warns-of-governments-use-of-cellphone-data-without-warrants-11614003868 https://www.wsj.com/articles/treasury-watchdog-warns-of-gove... [2] https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-agencies-use-cellphone-location-data-for-immigration-enforcement-11581078600 https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-agencies-use-cellphone-... [3] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-dhs-cell-phone-data-tracking-geolocation https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-dhs-ce... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/26/ice-private-utility-data/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/26/ice-pri...

by vasco 4y ago

krageon 4y ago

The harm is real, even if you try to ridicule it. None of your refutation is founded on the reality of the harm (or what was claimed, AFAICT). This is called a strawman.

vasco 4y ago
But I didn't say there was no harm? I asked for examples as it's hard for me to picture them. Another commenter gave a good example of how government agencies can use this data for nefarious things, I was originally curious of ways of profiting from knowing what was initially discussed, when the cycle is. I think because the topic is charged you saw ridicule where there was none.

lelandfe 4y ago

Missouri officials used women's menstrual cycle data in 2019 in a quest to shut down the state's last abortion clinic.[0] This was legal due to a lack of HIPAA restrictions. It would not be difficult to use this data in a post-Roe US to litigate against abortions. > companies can't even do anything very interesting with this data that they collect I'm not concerned about the companies. I'm concerned about domestic agencies that purchase that data to workaround restrictions that prevent them from collecting it.[1][2][3][4](stretching to inf.) Like your parent commenter stated, this is to avoid Fourth Amendment restrictions. [0] https://time.com/5713804/missouri-health-official-planned-parenthood-periods/ https://time.com/5713804/missouri-health-official-planned-pa... [1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/treasury-watchdog-warns-of-governments-use-of-cellphone-data-without-warrants-11614003868 https://www.wsj.com/articles/treasury-watchdog-warns-of-gove... [2] https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-agencies-use-cellphone-location-data-for-immigration-enforcement-11581078600 https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-agencies-use-cellphone-... [3] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-dhs-cell-phone-data-tracking-geolocation https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/hamedaleaziz/ice-dhs-ce... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/26/ice-private-utility-data/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/02/26/ice-pri...