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In Paris it is a deliberate attempt to create traffic jam to force people to stop driving. They only succeeded on the first part.
by cm2187 4y ago
In Paris it is a deliberate attempt to create traffic jam to force people to stop driving. They only succeeded on the first part.
- sofixa 4y agoBut Paris already has amazing public transit that is only getting expanded more (line E to Mantes through La Défense, Grand Paris Express, line 14, a bunch of trams, etc.). And the point of the road closures was to make walking and mostly cycling more enjoyable. You can see that it worked, because places like Rivoli, quais de Seine, bd Sébastopol are full with bikes. Making driving more of a pain thus inciting more use of public transit or bikes is just a bonus.
- orwin 4y agoNah, i really dislike Paris and wouldn't come back ever, but in fairness, those measure really had an impact on the pollution and the public transportation useage.
- nibbleshifter 4y agoThere is virtually no need to drive a private automobile in Paris if you are able bodied. The same applies to Berlin, London, and many other places.
- cm2187 4y ago...and have a taste for tunnels stinking piss, overcrowded trains, very long and sordid corridors (Chatelet).
- _7ezv 4y agoDon't know about Chatelet but the last time I was to London (which is not more than a year ago), the tunnels and trains seemed fine. Yes, it gets crowded during the morning peak hours in some of the busy routes but apart from that, they seem to be really good. Makes me sad that most other cities do not provide that kind of easily accessible public transport.
- cm2187 4y agoSorry I was talking about Paris. London is a much more pleasant experience, despite the tube being so much older, the tunnels narrower and the temperature very hot in the summer. I avoid taking the metro in Paris, I have no problem taking the tube in London. Not the least because the brits have preserved a form of courtesy without which there would be deads every day in the tube (if people were pushing on overcrowded platforms like they do in Paris).
- nibbleshifter 4y agoLondon's transport system is extremely well run, despite the national governments political hostility towards it. TfL (Transport for London) do a lot of interesting things to manage traffic (rerouting people on foot through stations in interesting ways) to manage traffic/congestion. Its also rather heavily surveilled and policed by the British Transport Police (a fully fledged police force specifically for the UK public transport networks).
- nibbleshifter 4y agoTbf, I didn't mind that too much. The metro could use some improvements, for sure.