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Watching videos of this event reminds me of a comedian's bit where he talks about watching Rocky when he was young versus today. When he was young, he would che

by bko 4y ago

Watching videos of this event reminds me of a comedian's bit where he talks about watching Rocky when he was young versus today. When he was young, he would cheer Rocky on while eating those raw eggs. When he watched it when he was older he thought about how hard it would be to get those egg stains off his sweatshirt. I guess that's all to say that I am of the age where I see a bunch of young men shutting down a street, cheering loudly and flying down a hill with no helmet makes me cringe and feel bad for the neighbors.

throwaway_4ever 4y ago
In an age where people are as lonely and isolated as ever and rightly complain about the ubiquity of car-based transportation, here is a group that has built an actual community around practically carbon-free transportation. Though, yes, even as a skateboarder I don't condone the hill-bombing as it is legitimately too dangerous.
- uhhhhuhyes 4y ago
  - Retric 4y ago
    Cars taking over public streets happened because drivers just started killing so many people. It had nothing to do with people choosing cars over walking rather than living over being run over.
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  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    Skate or Die!
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  - dang 4y ago
    Yikes, please don't take HN threads into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- skavi 4y ago
  Skateboarding culture is really stupid about safety gear. If they wore the same stuff longboarders wore when going down big slopes, the sport wouldn’t be nearly as dangerous.
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  - megablast 4y ago
    Cars kill a million people every single year. And seriously injure 100x many more. I can't really care about skater safety equipment when we allow cars to exist.
    - tempestn 4y ago
      You really need to look at incident rates rather than totals when making comparisons across categories like this. Plus, no one is suggesting banning skateboards, just participating in the sport as safely as possible. There is likewise an ongoing effort to make cars as safe as possible, and indeed they have gotten much safer for both passengers and pedestrians over the years.
      - apsurd 4y ago
        curious how cars have become safer for pedestrians? i've anecdotally absorbed the opposite, but maybe i'm a biased bicyclist. Cars have only become increasingly massive; an arms race to "protect your family!" meaning the passengers.
        tempestn 4y ago
        I believe EU regulations lead the way here. Basically, part of crash testing now involves impacts with pedestrians. My understanding is that the primary effect is on the front-end shape of vehicles. When striking a pedestrian, you want them to roll up onto the hood, into the windshield, to spread out the impact as much as possible (in area and time). More recently, systems like automated emergency braking have helped too. Here, this wikipedia page gives an overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_safety_through_vehicle_design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_safety_through_vehi...
rgifford 4y ago
I worry about egg stains on sweatshirts too. Some folks join us with age. Others live life right up to the brim, good for em I say. The world needs all kinds. Reminds me of Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake. It's this race in Gloucester, England. It's been going on since the early 1800s. Folks run down a 45 degree hill for 200 yards to catch a 10 pound rolling cheese wheel. It's as dangerous as it sounds, but fun to watch [1]. Medical staff is onsite and ready for the inevitable hospital visits that follow. They swapped out the cheese for foam a decade back for safety reasons, which makes me chuckle for some reason. If anything the SF hill bomb tradition should get adopted by the city. Give it a date and time, close down the street, get medical staff and police on site, get some minimal safety measures in place, and give residents some notice. Then is there anything to be upset about? 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEh3wz-92i4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEh3wz-92i4
- googlryas 4y ago
  Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people: https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-dolores-street-following-hill-bomb-death/ https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do... https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-oikawa-suffers-brain-injury-during-dolores/ https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-... If they have some private hill they want to go kill themselves on, then go for it. But we shouldn't be shutting down public infrastructure for this. It would be like saying we should shut down I-95 so douchebags can drag race down it. Horrible idea all around. Having the state encourage this behavior is a great way to get more people TBIs.
  - hoseja 4y ago
    I REALLY don't understand appeals to safety when you then fail to mention the astounding death-toll of car transportation.
    - googlryas 4y ago
human_person 4y ago
I was one of the neighbors. I actually loved this event. The first time I walked by was right around the George Floyd protests and it was refreshing to see the police working with the local community (blocking off the street). So kids (and some adults) could safely use the space in a unique way.
sschueller 4y ago
I worry about the fact that those are raw non pasteurized eggs.

by bko 4y ago

throwaway_4ever 4y ago

In an age where people are as lonely and isolated as ever and rightly complain about the ubiquity of car-based transportation, here is a group that has built an actual community around practically carbon-free transportation. Though, yes, even as a skateboarder I don't condone the hill-bombing as it is legitimately too dangerous.

uhhhhuhyes 4y ago
- Retric 4y ago
  Cars taking over public streets happened because drivers just started killing so many people. It had nothing to do with people choosing cars over walking rather than living over being run over.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  Skate or Die!
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- dang 4y ago
  Yikes, please don't take HN threads into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
skavi 4y ago
Skateboarding culture is really stupid about safety gear. If they wore the same stuff longboarders wore when going down big slopes, the sport wouldn’t be nearly as dangerous.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- megablast 4y ago
  Cars kill a million people every single year. And seriously injure 100x many more. I can't really care about skater safety equipment when we allow cars to exist.
  - tempestn 4y ago
    You really need to look at incident rates rather than totals when making comparisons across categories like this. Plus, no one is suggesting banning skateboards, just participating in the sport as safely as possible. There is likewise an ongoing effort to make cars as safe as possible, and indeed they have gotten much safer for both passengers and pedestrians over the years.
    - apsurd 4y ago
      curious how cars have become safer for pedestrians? i've anecdotally absorbed the opposite, but maybe i'm a biased bicyclist. Cars have only become increasingly massive; an arms race to "protect your family!" meaning the passengers.
      - tempestn 4y ago
        I believe EU regulations lead the way here. Basically, part of crash testing now involves impacts with pedestrians. My understanding is that the primary effect is on the front-end shape of vehicles. When striking a pedestrian, you want them to roll up onto the hood, into the windshield, to spread out the impact as much as possible (in area and time). More recently, systems like automated emergency braking have helped too. Here, this wikipedia page gives an overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_safety_through_vehicle_design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_safety_through_vehi...

rgifford 4y ago

I worry about egg stains on sweatshirts too. Some folks join us with age. Others live life right up to the brim, good for em I say. The world needs all kinds. Reminds me of Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake. It's this race in Gloucester, England. It's been going on since the early 1800s. Folks run down a 45 degree hill for 200 yards to catch a 10 pound rolling cheese wheel. It's as dangerous as it sounds, but fun to watch [1]. Medical staff is onsite and ready for the inevitable hospital visits that follow. They swapped out the cheese for foam a decade back for safety reasons, which makes me chuckle for some reason. If anything the SF hill bomb tradition should get adopted by the city. Give it a date and time, close down the street, get medical staff and police on site, get some minimal safety measures in place, and give residents some notice. Then is there anything to be upset about? 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEh3wz-92i4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEh3wz-92i4

googlryas 4y ago
Or we can just install speed bumps/dots on every hilly street and let young people figure out a different way to being needlessly reckless. You're saying "good for em I say" to people who give themselves traumatic brain injuries and kill random innocent people: https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-dolores-street-following-hill-bomb-death/ https://sfist.com/2020/07/20/city-installs-raised-dots-on-do... https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-oikawa-suffers-brain-injury-during-dolores/ https://sfist.com/2019/07/20/well-known-skateboarder-tomoko-... If they have some private hill they want to go kill themselves on, then go for it. But we shouldn't be shutting down public infrastructure for this. It would be like saying we should shut down I-95 so douchebags can drag race down it. Horrible idea all around. Having the state encourage this behavior is a great way to get more people TBIs.
- hoseja 4y ago
  I REALLY don't understand appeals to safety when you then fail to mention the astounding death-toll of car transportation.
  - googlryas 4y ago

human_person 4y ago

I was one of the neighbors. I actually loved this event. The first time I walked by was right around the George Floyd protests and it was refreshing to see the police working with the local community (blocking off the street). So kids (and some adults) could safely use the space in a unique way.

sschueller 4y ago

I worry about the fact that those are raw non pasteurized eggs.