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Glad to hear you don't read any news, presumably including the link to CNBC you submitted. What's your alternative?

betwixthewires 4y ago
Not who you're asking, but my alternative is simply interacting with people around me. I'll hear about basically everything from someone running their mouth, half the time it's their biases and bullshit spewing out, the other half it's actual pertinent information. That's significantly less biases and bullshit than if I followed news, and much less time spent pretending to care, so it's a win for me.
- spread_love 4y ago
  Oh, so hearsay. It's much less efficient to have to ask multiple people for their summaries of the news every day instead of reading a newspaper.
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    The news is hearsay with a veneer of officialness. I don't ask. You don't have to. If it's important you'll hear about it passively. You'll also hear about unimportant things, but far fewer unimportant things than if you actively looked for pertinent information.
    - spread_love 4y ago
      I decide what to learn about, you let others decide for you. > The news is hearsay with a veneer of officialness [sic] (I'm guessing you meant officiality?) So "the news is hearsay," and you just get hearsay of that hearsay? Not seeing the benefit.
      - betwixthewires 4y ago
        You don't decide shit. You're consuming what some executive wants you to. I choose what to care about. I hear about what's happening, same as you, except I don't sit anxiously in front of a box to do it, and I don't get told what to think and feel about it.
        spread_love 4y ago
        I decided what to read. You passively wait for someone else to tell you what's newsworthy. I guess you sitting anxiously in front of your laptop doesn't count? Does the news you're looking at reddit and Twitter for come with any commentary by chance? If so you're getting told what to think and feel about it.
JasserInicide 4y ago
Abolish 24/7 news networks to start. They provide 0 benefit to society.
bsenftner 4y ago
> presumably including the link to CNBC you submitted. Not sure who you're talking to here. I've never submitted any CNBC anything anywhere. Alternatives are Hacker News, Reddit's /r/news & r/worldnews, and then my network of friends that includes working political/economics journalists, ACLU & NGO attorneys and friends that became congress people. Plus my wife has a stellar curated twitter feed.
- spread_love 4y ago
  Yes you have https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 I thought your alternative was "interacting with people around me," but now you're listing websites? Websites that link to NEWS articles?! That's just reading the news with extra steps.
  - bsenftner 4y ago
    You seem to be confusing me with someone else, or your posting style attributes things to people and you're connecting the wrong people.
    - spread_love 4y ago
      Nope, you're the listed submitter of this link to CNBC, see the part that says "by bsenftner 10 months ago?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 Here's your original comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32076299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32076299 It says "let them all go bankrupt," but then you say you read news sites that you find on reddit and Twitter regularly. Wouldn't that be harder if they all went bankrupt?
      - bsenftner 4y ago
        Oh, you got me. 10 months ago I submitted a news link. Do you have an issue with secondary thinking? When I say "let them all go bankrupt" I and stating I'd like to see market forces stress them to stop their poor reporting practices or go bankrupt." does this need to be explained explicitly to you?

Not who you're asking, but my alternative is simply interacting with people around me. I'll hear about basically everything from someone running their mouth, half the time it's their biases and bullshit spewing out, the other half it's actual pertinent information. That's significantly less biases and bullshit than if I followed news, and much less time spent pretending to care, so it's a win for me.

spread_love 4y ago
Oh, so hearsay. It's much less efficient to have to ask multiple people for their summaries of the news every day instead of reading a newspaper.
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  The news is hearsay with a veneer of officialness. I don't ask. You don't have to. If it's important you'll hear about it passively. You'll also hear about unimportant things, but far fewer unimportant things than if you actively looked for pertinent information.
  - spread_love 4y ago
    I decide what to learn about, you let others decide for you. > The news is hearsay with a veneer of officialness [sic] (I'm guessing you meant officiality?) So "the news is hearsay," and you just get hearsay of that hearsay? Not seeing the benefit.
    - betwixthewires 4y ago
      You don't decide shit. You're consuming what some executive wants you to. I choose what to care about. I hear about what's happening, same as you, except I don't sit anxiously in front of a box to do it, and I don't get told what to think and feel about it.
      - spread_love 4y ago
        I decided what to read. You passively wait for someone else to tell you what's newsworthy. I guess you sitting anxiously in front of your laptop doesn't count? Does the news you're looking at reddit and Twitter for come with any commentary by chance? If so you're getting told what to think and feel about it.

JasserInicide 4y ago

Abolish 24/7 news networks to start. They provide 0 benefit to society.

bsenftner 4y ago

> presumably including the link to CNBC you submitted. Not sure who you're talking to here. I've never submitted any CNBC anything anywhere. Alternatives are Hacker News, Reddit's /r/news & r/worldnews, and then my network of friends that includes working political/economics journalists, ACLU & NGO attorneys and friends that became congress people. Plus my wife has a stellar curated twitter feed.

spread_love 4y ago
Yes you have https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 I thought your alternative was "interacting with people around me," but now you're listing websites? Websites that link to NEWS articles?! That's just reading the news with extra steps.
- bsenftner 4y ago
  You seem to be confusing me with someone else, or your posting style attributes things to people and you're connecting the wrong people.
  - spread_love 4y ago
    Nope, you're the listed submitter of this link to CNBC, see the part that says "by bsenftner 10 months ago?": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28480214 Here's your original comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32076299 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32076299 It says "let them all go bankrupt," but then you say you read news sites that you find on reddit and Twitter regularly. Wouldn't that be harder if they all went bankrupt?
    - bsenftner 4y ago
      Oh, you got me. 10 months ago I submitted a news link. Do you have an issue with secondary thinking? When I say "let them all go bankrupt" I and stating I'd like to see market forces stress them to stop their poor reporting practices or go bankrupt." does this need to be explained explicitly to you?