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The problem many complain about though is that this shifts the point of the Spotify product. Those who want a clean interface for listening to music, often spec

by nwsm 4y ago

The problem many complain about though is that this shifts the point of the Spotify product. Those who want a clean interface for listening to music, often specifically out of one's library of "liked" albums and playlists, now deal with a UI encumbered with podcasts, social features, and I guess now games. At some point soon there will be room for a "just your music" streaming service.

saghm 4y ago
Ideally they could make each of these separate apps. There's no technical reason why multiple apps couldn't be published by Spotify that all use the same IP.
- gardenhedge 4y ago
  If they do this they will not have the same uptake on those apps as the main one. Eventually someone will have the bright idea to merge them.
  - saghm 4y ago
    Gmail, Drive, and Calendar all probably share a decent amount of backend data despite them all sharing some backend data as part of the G Suite, and the main Facebook app has almost a superset of the data in Messenger app (the only thing I can think of that might be missing is the "stories" stuff in Messenger, but I also don''t really know anyone who uses that). While Spotify doesn't have anti-trust concerns like Facebook and Google (at least right now), I'm a bit skeptical that there's any worries about having a combined G Suite app or merging Messenger back into Facebook proper being that much of a monopoly concern given how entwined they already are in the browser.
blowski 4y ago
I quit Spotify a few months back for this reason.
- batiudrami 4y ago
  Apple Music is better but still overrun with computer generated playlists. I wish I could turn them all off, or have them all contained within a “radio” tab, and not all over the “listen now”, “browse” and even artist pages.
skrtskrt 4y ago
I've used Spotify for ~9 years years exclusively for music streaming and I guess I get a podcast suggestion on the homepage every once in awhile but I just ignore it and move on. You can permanently hide the "friend" view in settings, no one I know has used it since college. Aside from moving some small things around so they take 2 taps instead of 3 or 4, their UI has barely changed at all. It has a working Linux client. It has boundless capability to help you discover new music. I don't know why people on here act like Spotify is an abomination, you can still just buy and own your music if you insist. Literally the only thing I would change is for them to pay the artists more. And I'd happily pay triple the price to make that happen.
- blowski 4y ago
  Frustrations with Spotify: 1. I used to actively look forward to my weekly recommendations. By the end, they were recommending music that was already in my most played. And lots of generic indie folk crap that all sounded the same. I didn't seem to be able to convince it that I didn't like it. 2. I'd search for specific albums by specific artists and get guided instead to playlists. 3. Forcing it to play an album in the original order was strangely difficult when playing on a smart speaker. 4. Downloaded music wouldn't play on a device with poor internet. Sat on a train enough times unable to listen to music that I used VLC instead. 5. It sometimes took 20-30 seconds (and even a restart of the app) to get it to play a track. On a newish iPad (same on iPhone) and decent internet. Spotify's whole mission seems now to be less about appealing to music lovers, and more about generating a constant background noise.
  - skrtskrt 4y ago
    > I used to actively look forward to my weekly recommendations. By the end, they were recommending music that was already in my most played. And lots of generic indie folk crap that all sounded the same. I didn't seem to be able to convince it that I didn't like it. This is the way of the Discover Weekly, it recommends music that is sonically similar to what you listen to most. Eventually you run out of music that is actually good that is sonically similar to what you already listen to. You can also do * song/album/artist radio on any song/album/artist you hear, which will be matched to that song/album/artist and not your personal pref. * release radar - new song release weekly by your favorite artists or similar artists * automatic mix playlists with a friend that bring in their music preferences * daily mixes - 90% songs you like and already listen to, separated by genres, with a handful of new ones mixed in ... and that's just a small percentage of what is or can be automatically generated by Spotify. There are endless user-created playlists to explore. > I'd search for specific albums by specific artists and get guided instead to playlists. The search can be filtered by whether you want songs, albums, artists, playlists, podcasts, or profiles. It's the top, most obvious option on search, right below the search bar. Their search has also improved massively in the last few years to where you don't need to filter and can just type the song name and artist/album name in the same search to filter out all the similarly named songs by other artists - it no longer indexes the search on just a single attribute. The rest sound like device issues. Never encountered them across Androids, iPhones, Ipads, Macbooks, Linux laptops, etc.
candiddevmike 4y ago
They keep adding more shit so they can "justify" subscription increases. I'm a Spotify user and look forward to paying for Heardle and never using it (because why offer a cheaper, non-heardle tier?)

by nwsm 4y ago

saghm 4y ago

Ideally they could make each of these separate apps. There's no technical reason why multiple apps couldn't be published by Spotify that all use the same IP.

gardenhedge 4y ago
If they do this they will not have the same uptake on those apps as the main one. Eventually someone will have the bright idea to merge them.
- saghm 4y ago
  Gmail, Drive, and Calendar all probably share a decent amount of backend data despite them all sharing some backend data as part of the G Suite, and the main Facebook app has almost a superset of the data in Messenger app (the only thing I can think of that might be missing is the "stories" stuff in Messenger, but I also don''t really know anyone who uses that). While Spotify doesn't have anti-trust concerns like Facebook and Google (at least right now), I'm a bit skeptical that there's any worries about having a combined G Suite app or merging Messenger back into Facebook proper being that much of a monopoly concern given how entwined they already are in the browser.

blowski 4y ago

I quit Spotify a few months back for this reason.

batiudrami 4y ago
Apple Music is better but still overrun with computer generated playlists. I wish I could turn them all off, or have them all contained within a “radio” tab, and not all over the “listen now”, “browse” and even artist pages.

skrtskrt 4y ago

I've used Spotify for ~9 years years exclusively for music streaming and I guess I get a podcast suggestion on the homepage every once in awhile but I just ignore it and move on. You can permanently hide the "friend" view in settings, no one I know has used it since college. Aside from moving some small things around so they take 2 taps instead of 3 or 4, their UI has barely changed at all. It has a working Linux client. It has boundless capability to help you discover new music. I don't know why people on here act like Spotify is an abomination, you can still just buy and own your music if you insist. Literally the only thing I would change is for them to pay the artists more. And I'd happily pay triple the price to make that happen.

blowski 4y ago
Frustrations with Spotify: 1. I used to actively look forward to my weekly recommendations. By the end, they were recommending music that was already in my most played. And lots of generic indie folk crap that all sounded the same. I didn't seem to be able to convince it that I didn't like it. 2. I'd search for specific albums by specific artists and get guided instead to playlists. 3. Forcing it to play an album in the original order was strangely difficult when playing on a smart speaker. 4. Downloaded music wouldn't play on a device with poor internet. Sat on a train enough times unable to listen to music that I used VLC instead. 5. It sometimes took 20-30 seconds (and even a restart of the app) to get it to play a track. On a newish iPad (same on iPhone) and decent internet. Spotify's whole mission seems now to be less about appealing to music lovers, and more about generating a constant background noise.
- skrtskrt 4y ago
  > I used to actively look forward to my weekly recommendations. By the end, they were recommending music that was already in my most played. And lots of generic indie folk crap that all sounded the same. I didn't seem to be able to convince it that I didn't like it. This is the way of the Discover Weekly, it recommends music that is sonically similar to what you listen to most. Eventually you run out of music that is actually good that is sonically similar to what you already listen to. You can also do * song/album/artist radio on any song/album/artist you hear, which will be matched to that song/album/artist and not your personal pref. * release radar - new song release weekly by your favorite artists or similar artists * automatic mix playlists with a friend that bring in their music preferences * daily mixes - 90% songs you like and already listen to, separated by genres, with a handful of new ones mixed in ... and that's just a small percentage of what is or can be automatically generated by Spotify. There are endless user-created playlists to explore. > I'd search for specific albums by specific artists and get guided instead to playlists. The search can be filtered by whether you want songs, albums, artists, playlists, podcasts, or profiles. It's the top, most obvious option on search, right below the search bar. Their search has also improved massively in the last few years to where you don't need to filter and can just type the song name and artist/album name in the same search to filter out all the similarly named songs by other artists - it no longer indexes the search on just a single attribute. The rest sound like device issues. Never encountered them across Androids, iPhones, Ipads, Macbooks, Linux laptops, etc.

candiddevmike 4y ago

They keep adding more shit so they can "justify" subscription increases. I'm a Spotify user and look forward to paying for Heardle and never using it (because why offer a cheaper, non-heardle tier?)