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People also get old advice that no longer applies. "Stay with a job, arrive early, go the extra mile and they will reward you down the road!" In these sort of

People also get old advice that no longer applies. "Stay with a job, arrive early, go the extra mile and they will reward you down the road!" In these sort of things, your direct manager probably doesn't even know what you make. There is a tight pay band set by HR and virtually no room for differentiation between employees. There is no mechanism in most roles to truly be rewarded for going the extra mile. The only surefire way to increase your takings is to be active in the employment marketplace and always looking for a better deal. Working for someone is like this old Seinfeld bit[0], if you want to be rewarded you have to get someone to agree to it before you do the work, once the project is delivered and they are satiated they won't be feeling as generous. "We don't need labor now why are we giving this guy a raise?" [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-hk5turqgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-hk5turqgA

Gibbon1 4y ago
Friend of mine sat in a meeting between the CEO, CFO, and their senior store manager while they argue whether to give an assistant manager a $0.35/hr raise or a $0.25/hr raise. For 45 minutes.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  That's a $21 annual delta at 40 hours a week, I knew retail had thin margins but sheesh.
  - waqf 4y ago
    In my math it's a $210 annual delta.
    - willcipriano 4y ago
      Ahh you are right
- mistrial9 4y ago
  there is a power relationship between those people, and they are being paid quite well to engage privately. Of course it is obnoxious if you have any empathy at all -- many employers remove empathy as "weak" .. they have key-word one liners between each other to signal about it. not fun
- oefrha 4y ago
  My mother tries her best to pay her reports fairly and it’s been a constant source of conflict between her and her manager. The amount in dispute? Always <$100 a month — that’s the total across ~30 employees. It’s insane how petty some people can be.

Gibbon1 4y ago

Friend of mine sat in a meeting between the CEO, CFO, and their senior store manager while they argue whether to give an assistant manager a $0.35/hr raise or a $0.25/hr raise. For 45 minutes.

willcipriano 4y ago
That's a $21 annual delta at 40 hours a week, I knew retail had thin margins but sheesh.
- waqf 4y ago
  In my math it's a $210 annual delta.
  - willcipriano 4y ago
    Ahh you are right
mistrial9 4y ago
there is a power relationship between those people, and they are being paid quite well to engage privately. Of course it is obnoxious if you have any empathy at all -- many employers remove empathy as "weak" .. they have key-word one liners between each other to signal about it. not fun
oefrha 4y ago
My mother tries her best to pay her reports fairly and it’s been a constant source of conflict between her and her manager. The amount in dispute? Always <$100 a month — that’s the total across ~30 employees. It’s insane how petty some people can be.