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Is the real exam more involved than this exam? This is too simple. This seems like a test most middle schoolers should be able to pass without studying for.

trash3 4y ago
masklinn 4y ago
US police departments are not exactly known for trying to hire rocket surgeons.
- drstewart 4y ago
  Which police departments around the world have hiring criteria equivalent to "rocket surgeons"?
  - fooker 4y ago
    You should look at the UPSC exam sample questions from India.
    - jamessb 4y ago
      For anyone else who is curious, the past exam papers are available here: https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/previous-question-papers?field_exam_name_value=police https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/previous-question-paper...
    - drstewart 4y ago
      These police? https://thewire.in/government/why-police-brutality-and-torture-are-endemic-in-india https://thewire.in/government/why-police-brutality-and-tortu...
      - fooker 4y ago
        Yes, that police. Are you surprised that education is not a solution for everything?
        fl0id 4y ago
        It always depends on what kind of education. Education as such does not necessarily make police more civil of course
  - masklinn 4y ago
    In Finland, becoming a police officer requires getting a bachelor from the police university college. For commanding positions, a master from the same is necessary. Polamk has an admission rate of about 7%.
    - forgotmypw17 4y ago
      NYPD also requires a bachelors.
      - justin66 4y ago
        Not really. “You must have earned 60 college credits with a minimum 2.0 GPA from an accredited institution or 2 years of active military service in the U.S. Armed Forces in order to be appointed to the title of Police Officer. ”
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    In the UK you have to have at least a Desmond and a couple of A-levels/Highers in a subject unrelated to your degree.
    - noja 4y ago
      > you have to have at least a Desmond What is a Desmond?
      - masklinn 4y ago
        A miscorrect of “degree” (or a mistyping thereof), something along those lines? Especially since the rest of the phrase talks about qualification in addition to a degree. Edit: apparently not, til
      - david_allison 4y ago
        Another name for 'Lower Second Class honours' (50%+ in assessments*). 97% of people who completed their degree got a 2:2 or higher in 2019/20[1], but the UK's seen significant grade inflation over the last 20 years. You'd be looking at around 80% in the 1990s Nowadays, you will lose out on some graduate jobs if you get a Desmond. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification#Lower_Second_Class_honours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_c... [1] https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/27-01-2021/sb258-higher-education-student-statistics/qualifications#:~:text=Of%20those%20gaining%20a%20classified,when%20it%20came%20to%20assessment https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/27-01-2021/sb258-higher-educatio... * 50% is acceptable in the British system > Getting a mark over 50% means that you are beginning to understand the difficult work of your degree. Getting over 60% is excellent because it means you have demonstrated a deep knowledge of your subject to the marker. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/students/success-guide/ug/assessments-and-feedback/improving-through-feedback/understanding-grades/ https://www.imperial.ac.uk/students/success-guide/ug/assessm...
      - bifftastic 4y ago
        Desmond Tutu. A lower second class degree is a 2.2.
- giantg2 4y ago
  In fact, they reject people who are too smart. https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/st...
JackFr 4y ago
It’s not a matter of passing or failing. More people apply to become cops than they have slots in the academy. The role of the exam is basically to sort the list of applicants to the police academy (along with veteran status, residency status, language abilities and anything else mandated by the civil service law.) Yes, the test is easy. Scoring a 70% will leave you eligible for the academy (assuming all other requirements to be a cop are met.) But the point is to try to give some kind of reasonable score that allows them to objectively sort applicants.
- giantg2 4y ago
  Is this really true today? It seems many departments are struggling to find recruits.
  - JackFr 4y ago
    Fair enough - it might not be true currently, I believe it was 5 years ago. The NYPD offers a decent package with respect to pay and benefits and you can retire after 20 years in.
charlieyu1 4y ago
I think being too smart is the easiest way to fail any police exams. They want people who follow orders, they don’t want people who are smart enough to think it is bullshit.
- willcipriano 4y ago
  Similar thing with leetcode style interviews really. Memorize a bunch of solutions to contrived problems to prove you are a good little coder, don't question the hiring manager about where you'll be using this on the job. Then get hired and move that header two pixels to the right, over and over again, forever.

trash3 4y ago

masklinn 4y ago

US police departments are not exactly known for trying to hire rocket surgeons.

drstewart 4y ago
Which police departments around the world have hiring criteria equivalent to "rocket surgeons"?
- fooker 4y ago
  You should look at the UPSC exam sample questions from India.
  - jamessb 4y ago
    For anyone else who is curious, the past exam papers are available here: https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/previous-question-papers?field_exam_name_value=police https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/previous-question-paper...
  - drstewart 4y ago
    These police? https://thewire.in/government/why-police-brutality-and-torture-are-endemic-in-india https://thewire.in/government/why-police-brutality-and-tortu...
    - fooker 4y ago
      Yes, that police. Are you surprised that education is not a solution for everything?
      - fl0id 4y ago
        It always depends on what kind of education. Education as such does not necessarily make police more civil of course
- masklinn 4y ago
  In Finland, becoming a police officer requires getting a bachelor from the police university college. For commanding positions, a master from the same is necessary. Polamk has an admission rate of about 7%.
  - forgotmypw17 4y ago
    NYPD also requires a bachelors.
    - justin66 4y ago
      Not really. “You must have earned 60 college credits with a minimum 2.0 GPA from an accredited institution or 2 years of active military service in the U.S. Armed Forces in order to be appointed to the title of Police Officer. ”
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  In the UK you have to have at least a Desmond and a couple of A-levels/Highers in a subject unrelated to your degree.
  - noja 4y ago
    > you have to have at least a Desmond What is a Desmond?
    - masklinn 4y ago
      A miscorrect of “degree” (or a mistyping thereof), something along those lines? Especially since the rest of the phrase talks about qualification in addition to a degree. Edit: apparently not, til
    - david_allison 4y ago
      Another name for 'Lower Second Class honours' (50%+ in assessments*). 97% of people who completed their degree got a 2:2 or higher in 2019/20[1], but the UK's seen significant grade inflation over the last 20 years. You'd be looking at around 80% in the 1990s Nowadays, you will lose out on some graduate jobs if you get a Desmond. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification#Lower_Second_Class_honours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_c... [1] https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/27-01-2021/sb258-higher-education-student-statistics/qualifications#:~:text=Of%20those%20gaining%20a%20classified,when%20it%20came%20to%20assessment https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/27-01-2021/sb258-higher-educatio... * 50% is acceptable in the British system > Getting a mark over 50% means that you are beginning to understand the difficult work of your degree. Getting over 60% is excellent because it means you have demonstrated a deep knowledge of your subject to the marker. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/students/success-guide/ug/assessments-and-feedback/improving-through-feedback/understanding-grades/ https://www.imperial.ac.uk/students/success-guide/ug/assessm...
    - bifftastic 4y ago
      Desmond Tutu. A lower second class degree is a 2.2.
giantg2 4y ago
In fact, they reject people who are too smart. https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/st...

JackFr 4y ago

It’s not a matter of passing or failing. More people apply to become cops than they have slots in the academy. The role of the exam is basically to sort the list of applicants to the police academy (along with veteran status, residency status, language abilities and anything else mandated by the civil service law.) Yes, the test is easy. Scoring a 70% will leave you eligible for the academy (assuming all other requirements to be a cop are met.) But the point is to try to give some kind of reasonable score that allows them to objectively sort applicants.

giantg2 4y ago
Is this really true today? It seems many departments are struggling to find recruits.
- JackFr 4y ago
  Fair enough - it might not be true currently, I believe it was 5 years ago. The NYPD offers a decent package with respect to pay and benefits and you can retire after 20 years in.

charlieyu1 4y ago

I think being too smart is the easiest way to fail any police exams. They want people who follow orders, they don’t want people who are smart enough to think it is bullshit.

willcipriano 4y ago
Similar thing with leetcode style interviews really. Memorize a bunch of solutions to contrived problems to prove you are a good little coder, don't question the hiring manager about where you'll be using this on the job. Then get hired and move that header two pixels to the right, over and over again, forever.