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Police Officer Exam Tutorial [pdf]
- metadat 4y agoSorry, what is the goal here? This doesn't seem interesting but I'm keen to understand the OPs mentality and motivation for submitting.
- quantified 4y agoIt's a peek at required training, mildly interesting to me from that angle.
- ajay-d 4y ago#4 solve for X came out of left field
- balderdash 4y agoYou if they get that right, you disqualify them… https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/st...
- noisy_boy 4y agoVery interesting - so could the modus operandi be: make a few mistakes but not too many, get recruited, now you are the 1% IQ-wise, take more exams and rise through the ranks to get off the street asap and retire with great benefits?
- Spooky23 4y agoYou only know what the lawsuit says. My guess is there was some other issues with personality evaluated. Think of a pilot. A pilot needs to be in command, exert control and assess situations in the fly. Yet a pilot also must be disposed to understand and follow complex rules and procedures precisely. The military does a lot of screening to identify that personality, and if you’ve known pilots, you can spot one. I would presume to guess there are criteria for a police officer that an exam would try to identify, if allowed to do so.
- drstewart 4y agoCan you explain what a New London, CT hiring practice has to do with a question on the NYPD exam?
- discordance 4y agoGotta know your order of operations on the beat.
- WatchDog 4y agoImplicit multiplication too.
- Hamuko 4y agoIt's under "Burglary", so I'm guessing victims of burglary like to give estimates of their property using algebra.
- michaelmior 4y agoEspecially when there's no "solving" involved.
- ceejayoz 4y agoQuestion eight baffles me. Are there characters not used in license plates or something?
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 4y ago> The man was walking northbound on West Street when an Asian guy who was about 6’10”, wearing a black shirt, green hat, and blue jeans, came up to him and punched him in the mouth. I am calling BS on that, right there.
- bitwize 4y agoYao Ming could've been having a bad year and gotten desperate.
- selimthegrim 4y agoThey must have been filming the sequel to Fletch.
- Forbo 4y agoThe typeface on that page changes multiple times, looks like they may have done some editing.
- kevdragon6 4y agoQuestion 33 is strange? Square feet? That question/answer should not be in square feet..
- juunpp 4y agoCertainly the wall must have a non-zero thickness, but the question should have said 'length' instead.
- asxd 4y agoI guess all walls are 1ft high in that diagram. You're right though, pretty sure it's a typo.
- bagels 4y agoAt least two typos, or one complete lack of understanding of dimensions.
- godelski 4y agoWhat's crazier is that A is also a possible answer, if the wall is 2' tall. But C and D aren't possible unless the wall is {4,5} + 16/21' tall. The fraction is 9.143" in case anyone is wondering. But the answer is completely ambiguous. What balcony wall is 1-2' tall?! That's a safety violation!
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- sgentle 4y agoThe length of the bottom wall is 20 feet and the sum of the lengths of the top walls is 17.5 feet, meaning there is an additional 2.5 feet of wall width across the two walls of the balcony. Assuming the wall is uniform thickness, that gives us dimensions of 1.25 x 10.5 feet, or 13.125 square feet. Sadly, not one of the allowed options.
- everfree 4y agoThat's the question they use to weed people out who are too smart for the job. If you bring the deliberate typo to their attention, they disqualify you. /s
- juunpp 4y ago"The officers observe a bald headed man, about 50 years old lying face up in his living room. The man is lying in a pool of blood. The officers tape off the crime scene, make all necessary notifications, and begin to interview five neighbors to find out if they saw or heard anything related to the death of Mr. Cain." Stay awhile and listen, for this is how Cain dies in Diablo 3.
- jonah 4y agoDidn't check for a pulse. Didn't administer CPR until medics or someone else arrived to relieve him. Maybe he was able to conclusively determine that he was gone. Not enough information is given I suppose. I didn't know beat cops in NYC were coroners or medics...
- zdragnar 4y agoIt is pretty common for police to have first responder training, as they are often literally the first to respond to medical emergencies by dint of already being in the area. OTOH, if you are responding to a scene where someone's head is bashed in, there's really not much point in attempting CPR...
- closewith 4y agoI don't know the situation in NYC, but in many places, any medical intervention can be contraindicated by certain signs of death (injury incompatible with life, rigor, hypostasis, etc).
- bryanrasmussen 4y agoIt's actually like a badly written logic/IQ problem; it starts off with a man who isn't named and then suddenly three sentences in he has a name.
- vogt 4y agoI am guessing that at least partially, it is designed to replicate what is likely a common scenario with police officers in which they are questioning someone who has either just been a victim or is potentially being deceptive/closed off/whatever. I wouldn't be surprised if very often when questioning someone after, say, a mugging, the actual details and faces to names doesn't happen until a few sentences in. "My brother was standing next to me and the guy came up and stole my backpack." "Ok, and you were standing over there? Over by the stop sign?" "Yeah, and he was on the right side of me." "Jose." "Ok, and that's your brother's name?" Just for one example off the top of my head
- pcurve 4y agoAnybody else read the first passage way too carefully like you're taking SAT II English and bracing for trick questions?
- phnofive 4y agoYep, scrolled down to the answer key looking for a twist.
- morpheuskafka 4y agoUnless its some kind of trick question, shouldn't the first question be asking which is the most detailed, not the must accurate? If all of them are completely in accordance with the given true information, then they are all equally and perfectly accurate, even if one just says "the sky was blue."
- defrost 4y ago>> shouldn't the first question be asking which is the most detailed, not the must accurate? The first question askes which witness is the LEAST accurate. One statement is at odds with others in many ways, ergo: * that statement is least accurate, OR * the victim and two witnesses are colluding on a false narrative to cover the actual events because ... ??? ( poss. known assailant, fear of retailation, witnesses are part of gang pressuring victim, etc. )
- godelski 4y agoYeah I was a bit confused by it. The only way you can judge accuracy here is either from the base source, Jose, or the between inter-witness congruity. But accuracy is bad terminology for this. Given another prompt: Officers Joe Schmoe and Tits McGee arrive at the scene where Josb has a bloody face and says that the sky suddenly turned red and there are dolphins flying around. There are three witnesses. Witness 1 says there are pink and green dolphins flying around and attacked the man. Witness 2 says the sky turned green and two green dolphins attacked the man. Witness 3 says the sky turned pink and two pink dolphins attacked the man. No witness mentions the bag of mushrooms on the ground. Which account is the least accurate. According to the information above, what is Josb's brother's name? This reminds me of the DMV test when I moved to Oregon. The question was "You see a motorcycle coming towards you and its left blinker is on. Should you assume a) it is turning left, b) it is turning right, c) it is not turning, or d) none of the above." The correct answer was c with the explanation that motorcycle turn signals frequently don't automatically turn off. Despite this being literally the most dangerous answer.
- seoaeu 4y agoIf a vehicle is approaching you head on, isn’t it much safer to assume they aren’t turning? You’ll usually be wrong, but if you are right it could avoid a head on collision
- swader999 4y agoAfter reading this I think we're a long ways off from Robocop.
- anonu 4y ago400*20%, come on... We should have a higher bar than this...
- photon12 4y agoDo you want municipalities to be able to hire cops? This is already a tall order for a lot of people.
- ravel-bar-foo 4y agoNo? I want municipalities to hire competent and ethical cops (at market salaries), rather than giving firearms to train warm bodies and attempting to teach them to enforce the law.
- diordiderot 4y agoDo you want angry people with room temperature IQs armed and in charge?
- orthoxerox 4y agoOne benefit of global warming is that angry people with room temperature IQs are getting smarter.
- KingMob 4y agoNo. I want fewer police, and more mental health, parks, and educational services. And even if I did, the standard for getting a gun should be higher than this.
- staticassertion 4y agoNo I do not lol
- Spooky23 4y agoWe did. Civil Service exams are intended to assess merit and fitness for a job. This has been subject to litigation since the 90s by various parties who felt that minorities and others were underrepresented. In New York, the courts found in the 90s that many exams were partially IQ tests, which put the plaintiffs at a disadvantage. So they dumbed down civil service exams to be a combination of grammar, random factoids, and basic math.
- excalibur 4y ago> 5. Police Officer Darious arrives to the scene of a suspected overdose where the victim is not responding. He administers Naloxone from his department provided kit. The victim is still not responding, but has a pulse. How long should Officer Darious wait to administer another dose of Naloxone if the victim does not respond after CPR? > (A) Three to five minutes > (B) Six to eight minutes > (C) Three to five seconds > (D) Ten to fifteen minutes If the victim has a pulse, why is Officer Darious giving them CPR? He needs to follow directions better.
- bombcar 4y agoBased on my understanding of how questions are written and nothing else, I will guess the correct answer is A.
- excalibur 4y agoYep that's clearly the answer they're looking for, but it's still a shit question.
- jonah 4y ago> If the victim has a pulse, why is Officer Darious giving them CPR? If the victim has a pulse but is not breathing, CPR is indicated.
- nohuck13 4y agoAs I understand it, rescue breathing is indicated.
- borski 4y agoYeah that’s the P in CPR.
- ceejayoz 4y agoGuidelines were changed for laypeople a while back because it turned out continuous chest compressions moved enough air and was more impactful in the first few minutes. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484593/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484593/
- siva7 4y agoThe bar for this exam is so absurdly low, i passed it and i have no clue of police things. Compare this with police officer exams in other countries like germany where it’s a real college education.
- actually_a_dog 4y agoYou have to be careful not to score too high, or you might get rejected. https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/robert-jordan-too-smart-to-be-a-cop https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/robert-jordan-too-smart-...
- siva7 4y ago“A judge agreed that there was a reasonable expectation that cops not be too intelligent.” Well, it explains a few things..
- itronitron 4y agoOnly now do I realize that in every cop show where they are pointing out some officer who 'aced' the academy exam they are actually making a sly joke.
- warbeforepeace 4y agoCome to seattle and make 400k as a police officer. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/374-seattle-police-department-employees-made-at-least-200000-last-year-heres-how/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/374-seatt...
- missedthecue 4y agoAnd they still can't get enough applicants, despite sky high pay.
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- UK-AL 4y agoIsn't this just the entry exam to be educated. Not the final exam?
- natas 4y agoMy 9 years old son passed it very easily, with no prior knowledge of police things, although he watched the first season of Paw Patrol.
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- mrinterweb 4y agoIs the real exam more involved than this exam? This is too simple. This seems like a test most middle schoolers should be able to pass without studying for.
- trash3 4y ago
- masklinn 4y agoUS police departments are not exactly known for trying to hire rocket surgeons.
- drstewart 4y agoWhich police departments around the world have hiring criteria equivalent to "rocket surgeons"?
- fooker 4y agoYou should look at the UPSC exam sample questions from India.
- jamessb 4y agoFor anyone else who is curious, the past exam papers are available here: https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/previous-question-papers?field_exam_name_value=police https://www.upsc.gov.in/examinations/previous-question-paper...
- drstewart 4y agoThese police? https://thewire.in/government/why-police-brutality-and-torture-are-endemic-in-india https://thewire.in/government/why-police-brutality-and-tortu...
- fooker 4y agoYes, that police. Are you surprised that education is not a solution for everything?
- wilhil 4y agoQuestion 19... ... Burst through the window/28, enter 16a isn't an answer :( Just skim read - interesting, thanks for sharing!
- staticassertion 4y agoReminds me of the questions we got when we were going into 5th grade and had to get placed.
- quickthrower2 4y agoMakes me think of The Strokes song New York City Cops.
- mwexler 4y ago(This comment refers to the text questions, not the picture one where it clearly gives instructions to memorize) Are we to assume that the real test doesn't allow the taker to go back to the passage? Many passage-based questions are directly answered in the text, so is this test administered in a timed way where passages are shown then removed, to test recollection of detail? Or is it really testing just ability to extract the detail from the passage based on the question, with full "open book" access to the passage? (Edit: corrected typo, added clarification)
- netr0ute 4y agoMaybe it's to rule out those who can't read, because that would show with the "obvious" questions.
- orthoxerox 4y agoNYPD police academy must look like SNL Celebrity Jeopardy if it's an open book exam.
- cptcobalt 4y agoAnecdotally, we're selecting the wrong people in society to be police officers. I have seen three people from my high school who bullied me or others relentlessly (homophobia, racism, etc.) who are now in the police profession. It horrifies me.
- sfe22 4y agoYou don’t get to choose the police officers, where you got that from? They are selected by the government to serve and protect them. Government pays them, gives them power status and protection. The second objective may be to appear helpful to the general population so they can justify their existence as ‘helping the community’. While they may help the community when idle to support their second objective, they will always protect the government first. Just pray you don't end up on the other end.
- 8organicbits 4y agoIn democracies it's common to suggest that "we the people" control the Government (via voting) so if there is a problem with the Government then we are able to fix it by voting. Voting for a candidate proposing police reform is a good example, there's just an extra layer of indirection.
- sfe22 4y agoYou may also “control” the emperor by having your grandfather “vote” him in. And you mentioned democracy? Tell me where that place exists? I don’t see any country where majority of its population can decide laws, restrictions and other decisions?
- 8organicbits 4y agoThis is a good place to start: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
- corrral 4y ago