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> Unrelated, and unsolicited 2 cents, IMO it's all about eating as many fibrous and leafy greens as possible. At that point, a moderate side of lean meat, potat

> Unrelated, and unsolicited 2 cents, IMO it's all about eating as many fibrous and leafy greens as possible. At that point, a moderate side of lean meat, potato, carb, practially whatever - does not matter so long as the fibrous and leafy greens are the majority source of calories. If you eat a meal with a small steak and a baked potato, how many pounds of salad would you need to consume to get the majority of your calories from eating those leaves?

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seadan83 4y ago
Don't forget those broccoli stalks! But I think you make the point though, it's a lot of veg if you are going to be getting half of your calories or more from veg alone. Which also means you are going to feel pretty satiated and full from eating all that low calorie density food. I was a bit curious about the actual answer here. 1 oz steak has about 70 calories, 1 cup broccoli has about 30 calories. Seemingly you then need about a 3:1 ratio of servings veg to steak to hit that majority threshold. A whole potato has about 110 calories (about 150g), and broccoli by the same weight has about 50 calories, so about 2:1. Lettuce is known for having almost no calories in it, similar to tomatoes and cucumbers... There are lots of veg's out there, so don't just compare lettuce calories to the steak calories. "fibrous" greens include asparagus, brussel sprouts, bok choy, peppers, etc.. etc.. So.. to get that majority calories, two servings asparagus, one serving broccoli, a large salad, a small potato, and a tiny steak every third day or so or even less often would do it. There are also beans, lentils, whole-grains, plenty of sources so it's not just meat-potatos and leaves alone. On another front, that majority calories from veg means you are getting a ton of nutrients and are actually eating quite a lot. The idea of 'low calorie density' comes from this video by "Dylan Thomas" a professional cyclist and coach that produces a lot of data-based videos (and in the video, he goes into the studies and the science): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVHGt3Nf9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVHGt3Nf9U (minute 9:00 is where he talks about having a majority veg diet)
imtringued 4y ago
That is impossible, you're supposed to throw in some calories e.g. at least some sunflower seeds or nuts.

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seadan83 4y ago

Don't forget those broccoli stalks! But I think you make the point though, it's a lot of veg if you are going to be getting half of your calories or more from veg alone. Which also means you are going to feel pretty satiated and full from eating all that low calorie density food. I was a bit curious about the actual answer here. 1 oz steak has about 70 calories, 1 cup broccoli has about 30 calories. Seemingly you then need about a 3:1 ratio of servings veg to steak to hit that majority threshold. A whole potato has about 110 calories (about 150g), and broccoli by the same weight has about 50 calories, so about 2:1. Lettuce is known for having almost no calories in it, similar to tomatoes and cucumbers... There are lots of veg's out there, so don't just compare lettuce calories to the steak calories. "fibrous" greens include asparagus, brussel sprouts, bok choy, peppers, etc.. etc.. So.. to get that majority calories, two servings asparagus, one serving broccoli, a large salad, a small potato, and a tiny steak every third day or so or even less often would do it. There are also beans, lentils, whole-grains, plenty of sources so it's not just meat-potatos and leaves alone. On another front, that majority calories from veg means you are getting a ton of nutrients and are actually eating quite a lot. The idea of 'low calorie density' comes from this video by "Dylan Thomas" a professional cyclist and coach that produces a lot of data-based videos (and in the video, he goes into the studies and the science): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVHGt3Nf9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVHGt3Nf9U (minute 9:00 is where he talks about having a majority veg diet)

imtringued 4y ago

That is impossible, you're supposed to throw in some calories e.g. at least some sunflower seeds or nuts.