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>Apart from that, I would be curious to hear if Germany is suffering the same cognitive dissonance in media that we get here in Switzerland Not Germany but thi
by BlargMcLarg 4y ago
>Apart from that, I would be curious to hear if Germany is suffering the same cognitive dissonance in media that we get here in Switzerland
Not Germany but this is definitely happening in The Netherlands. Salaries are marginally, mostly begrudgingly, increasing. Even managed to squeeze a few words out of hiring managers looking to expand to Southern Europe specifically to capitalize on Spanish and Portuguese developers willing to work for current Dutch salaries. They would rather outsource before making the local market any better.
- Aeolun 4y agoI recently applied to two positions in the Netherland. Stating I’d need at least €100k to make it worth moving halfway across the world (and I’d still be losing out). All is roses and sunshine, companies agree (or at least, recruiter tells me they agree), and both interviews go well. Get offered 85k and 87k… Yeah, no.
- BlargMcLarg 4y agoDutch companies are incredible penny pinchers, trying to oversell small things while avoiding big things. I recently got offered 45-55k for a relatively high pressure, high tech, domestic fintech as a mid-level developer. That package was already 'average' pre-COVID, except it didn't have the 'hybrid work' slapped on it. Oh, and a laptop from the company is a benefit (what, am I supposed to just conjure code in the air?) Unfortunately, I know enough people will say "What? But 3.5k+ gross is a lot!", not understanding their attitude will continue this behavior and will keep wages low across the board.
- beepbeepcabbage 4y agoOutside of the biggest multi-national companies or banks/Fintech/oil, 90k is really hard to get past in NL.