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For sure, charities would be a much better use of the money involved... but on the other hand couldn't you say the same about art in general? I think what make

For sure, charities would be a much better use of the money involved... but on the other hand couldn't you say the same about art in general? I think what makes it different is the conspicuousness of these watches when they become a way to advertise wealth and status. But I like that artists/engineers can make a living by putting their time into producing such marvellous things. The world is richer for them.

winReInstall 4y ago
Eh, these are cnc milled and and robot handled just like any other industrial good. Sure the quality expectations are high, but the production process is nothing unique..
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Swiss watchmakers innovated CNC machinery though.
- Sporktacular 4y ago
  I'm guessing the part production is automated but low yield and the mechanisms/watches hand-assembled. For a run of 150 it makes no sense making a custom assembly device. Why does the production process have to be unique for the result to be art? It's like saying Picasso wasn't making art because he used paint, brushes and canvass like everyone else.
Dylan16807 4y ago
> on the other hand couldn't you say the same about art in general? I would say that mass-produced art should be pretty cheap, and these are mass-produced.
- Sporktacular 4y ago
  These ones are not.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    150 of the exact same model, among huge piles of other models. I don't want to argue about word choice. In the distinction I was describing, however imperfectly worded, watches like this easily go on the bulk side of the line.
    - Hellion 4y ago
      No, they don’t. And you won’t find many watch enthusiasts who agree with you either about this class of watch.
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        I drew a line. It goes on that side of the line I drew. > And you won’t find many watch enthusiasts who agree with you either about this class of watch. What specifically would they disagree with? The idea that these 150 watches are made in bulk to a single design, and that watches of this class have many closely related designs? Or something I said that wasn't watch-specific? If they're not made in bulk that's extremely interesting to me. Would that be like old guns that didn't have interchangeable parts, each one carefully and individually refined by expert hand to fit together? More so? Less so? How much variance is there between pieces? (I'd guess many old watches are like that but I haven't heard so specifically.)
        bowsamic 4y ago
        To me it seems in bad faith to use a word that draws a line in a roughly agreed upon place, and then claim you have freedom to place that line wherever you want, and thus are always correct in asserting that it is "made in bulk". Using your argument, you could claim that 1, or even 0 watches are "made in bulk", or that 30C is "cold" bc you draw the line of "cold" at 40C, etc. Throwing away all understanding of concepts that has ever existed in order to win this one point seems pointless to me
        Dylan16807 4y ago

winReInstall 4y ago

Eh, these are cnc milled and and robot handled just like any other industrial good. Sure the quality expectations are high, but the production process is nothing unique..

quickthrower2 4y ago
Swiss watchmakers innovated CNC machinery though.
Sporktacular 4y ago
I'm guessing the part production is automated but low yield and the mechanisms/watches hand-assembled. For a run of 150 it makes no sense making a custom assembly device. Why does the production process have to be unique for the result to be art? It's like saying Picasso wasn't making art because he used paint, brushes and canvass like everyone else.

Dylan16807 4y ago

> on the other hand couldn't you say the same about art in general? I would say that mass-produced art should be pretty cheap, and these are mass-produced.

Sporktacular 4y ago
These ones are not.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  150 of the exact same model, among huge piles of other models. I don't want to argue about word choice. In the distinction I was describing, however imperfectly worded, watches like this easily go on the bulk side of the line.
  - Hellion 4y ago
    No, they don’t. And you won’t find many watch enthusiasts who agree with you either about this class of watch.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      I drew a line. It goes on that side of the line I drew. > And you won’t find many watch enthusiasts who agree with you either about this class of watch. What specifically would they disagree with? The idea that these 150 watches are made in bulk to a single design, and that watches of this class have many closely related designs? Or something I said that wasn't watch-specific? If they're not made in bulk that's extremely interesting to me. Would that be like old guns that didn't have interchangeable parts, each one carefully and individually refined by expert hand to fit together? More so? Less so? How much variance is there between pieces? (I'd guess many old watches are like that but I haven't heard so specifically.)
      - bowsamic 4y ago
        To me it seems in bad faith to use a word that draws a line in a roughly agreed upon place, and then claim you have freedom to place that line wherever you want, and thus are always correct in asserting that it is "made in bulk". Using your argument, you could claim that 1, or even 0 watches are "made in bulk", or that 30C is "cold" bc you draw the line of "cold" at 40C, etc. Throwing away all understanding of concepts that has ever existed in order to win this one point seems pointless to me
        Dylan16807 4y ago