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I’ve given up on supplements lately. Every week I read about some panacea supplement that will improve my health a thousand fold. Yeah the science backs them up

I’ve given up on supplements lately. Every week I read about some panacea supplement that will improve my health a thousand fold. Yeah the science backs them up but supplements are largely a snake oil industry, and the improvements to health are minuscule. Most supplements are excreted by the body as waste and if you take a lot, you end up with very expensive pee. Then there’s the issue of certain supplements not working due to the wrong diet (some nutrients are only fat soluble for example). One thing I do use is fish oil which helps a lot in many areas. A well rounded diet with plenty of whole foods, with mostly plant based ingredients is all you need.

molticrystal 4y ago
>Most supplements are excreted by the body as waste Or just as bad, often supplements that might be therapeutic being completely or almost completely destroyed by the digestive system at the servings they are offered at. Though all things considered, such as purity, side effects, etc of the things we consume, it is probably for the best that so much is broken down to a point that it is mostly harmless substances or just passes through.
amelius 4y ago
One problem with a lot of supplements is that they might sometimes work in the first one or two weeks (either because they actually work briefly, or because of short-lived placebo effect). So then you get raving reviews on forums, except when they stop working the original posters don't pull their positive reviews.
- ratg13 4y ago
  The human body adapts to most anything you can consume, even poisons. You stop noticing the difference because your body beings you back to a homeostasis, not because whatever it is stopped working. Many people have experienced this in their lives with drugs and alcohol, but it's the same effect with pretty much everything, including things that are good for you. The idea should not be to 'chase the high', but to consume resources that are beneficial to your internal systems.
  - amelius 4y ago
    Yes, the problem is that initial honeymoon period of supplements is causing a lot of noise on forums, and therefore supplements are generally less useful than most people think (compared to good nutrition from normal foods).
    - ratg13 4y ago
      Lions mane is a normal food. You can go out in the forest and get it, or grow it yourself. Most people just aren't familiar with it or know that it's edible.
upsidesinclude 4y ago
You sound a lot like the kind of person that would buy "supplements" from GNC or CVS. And that's a very typical attitude for a person that is willing to give it that much effort. If you have a problem and want to correct it, sometimes the requirement is that you become informed and use some chemical compounds (i.e. supplements) in the way that your body can utilize them. Or you can pretend that everything is fixed with a pill and you just take a pill and you're better, only your results seem lacking.... Giving your body certain chemicals, at the right time, in the right ratios can do remarkable things. Or you ignore the larger prescription and take your GNC pill and find it doesn't work like your Adderall. As a side note, do you find that you have very expensive poop? Because most all that you ingest comes out the other end as well.
ratg13 4y ago
Bashing all supplements with one hand (with no data or even anecdata).. and then praising your supplement of choice with the other hand. Lion's Mane is the only supplement I've ever taken where I've physically felt the difference in my own body and its a shame to see it be dismissed so readily by random opinions opined by someone who has never tried it themselves.

molticrystal 4y ago

>Most supplements are excreted by the body as waste Or just as bad, often supplements that might be therapeutic being completely or almost completely destroyed by the digestive system at the servings they are offered at. Though all things considered, such as purity, side effects, etc of the things we consume, it is probably for the best that so much is broken down to a point that it is mostly harmless substances or just passes through.

amelius 4y ago

One problem with a lot of supplements is that they might sometimes work in the first one or two weeks (either because they actually work briefly, or because of short-lived placebo effect). So then you get raving reviews on forums, except when they stop working the original posters don't pull their positive reviews.

ratg13 4y ago
The human body adapts to most anything you can consume, even poisons. You stop noticing the difference because your body beings you back to a homeostasis, not because whatever it is stopped working. Many people have experienced this in their lives with drugs and alcohol, but it's the same effect with pretty much everything, including things that are good for you. The idea should not be to 'chase the high', but to consume resources that are beneficial to your internal systems.
- amelius 4y ago
  Yes, the problem is that initial honeymoon period of supplements is causing a lot of noise on forums, and therefore supplements are generally less useful than most people think (compared to good nutrition from normal foods).
  - ratg13 4y ago
    Lions mane is a normal food. You can go out in the forest and get it, or grow it yourself. Most people just aren't familiar with it or know that it's edible.

upsidesinclude 4y ago

You sound a lot like the kind of person that would buy "supplements" from GNC or CVS. And that's a very typical attitude for a person that is willing to give it that much effort. If you have a problem and want to correct it, sometimes the requirement is that you become informed and use some chemical compounds (i.e. supplements) in the way that your body can utilize them. Or you can pretend that everything is fixed with a pill and you just take a pill and you're better, only your results seem lacking.... Giving your body certain chemicals, at the right time, in the right ratios can do remarkable things. Or you ignore the larger prescription and take your GNC pill and find it doesn't work like your Adderall. As a side note, do you find that you have very expensive poop? Because most all that you ingest comes out the other end as well.

ratg13 4y ago

Bashing all supplements with one hand (with no data or even anecdata).. and then praising your supplement of choice with the other hand. Lion's Mane is the only supplement I've ever taken where I've physically felt the difference in my own body and its a shame to see it be dismissed so readily by random opinions opined by someone who has never tried it themselves.