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Seems like an odd metric but ok, Ashli Babbitt was good or bad?

trhway 4y ago
Ashli Babbitt wasn't prosecuted. She was shot during a riot. It is very unfortunate situation. Pretty much in any country forcing your way upon armed security in a top government building would lead to something like this. I specifically suggested to compare punishment for a mere participation in a protest, which is basically generally recognized as a human right while pushing yourself upon armed security guards isn't. In response to the comment below. I don't see any character assassination. What I read about her seems to indicate a pretty genuine person, a patriot who acted upon her beliefs. Nor her beliefs, nor actions fit reality and law unfortunately.
- aunty_helen 4y ago
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    That's sad and wasn't even necessary if you watched the video. She was begging to be shot (due to the excitement of the moment); you wouldn't need to shit on her name to justify it. That's just gloating over the corpse of somebody's loved one.
  - michaelmrose 4y ago
- LAC-Tech 4y ago
  Pretty much in any country forcing your way upon armed security in a top government building would lead to something like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflower_Student_Movement#Occupation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflower_Student_Movement#Occ... In 2014 political activists in Taiwan occupied the legislative yuan (something like congress or parliament). No one was killed. My position is shooting and killing an unarmed protestor entering a government building is abhorrent, full stop. Doesn't matter if you disagree or agree with their motives.
  - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
    My position is that it is good that most people are capable of employing more nuance than your position (accounting for violent insurrection, for example), and do so
    - LAC-Tech 4y ago
      Nuance is a very weaselly way of saying "it's a peaceful protest when people I like do it, it's violent insurrection when people I don't do it".
      - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        that's just a longer, more weaseley, and oddly-specific way of saying "nuance", as in, "people capable of nuance can usually differentiate between a protest and an insurrection"

Ashli Babbitt wasn't prosecuted. She was shot during a riot. It is very unfortunate situation. Pretty much in any country forcing your way upon armed security in a top government building would lead to something like this. I specifically suggested to compare punishment for a mere participation in a protest, which is basically generally recognized as a human right while pushing yourself upon armed security guards isn't. In response to the comment below. I don't see any character assassination. What I read about her seems to indicate a pretty genuine person, a patriot who acted upon her beliefs. Nor her beliefs, nor actions fit reality and law unfortunately.

aunty_helen 4y ago
- pessimizer 4y ago
  That's sad and wasn't even necessary if you watched the video. She was begging to be shot (due to the excitement of the moment); you wouldn't need to shit on her name to justify it. That's just gloating over the corpse of somebody's loved one.
- michaelmrose 4y ago
LAC-Tech 4y ago
Pretty much in any country forcing your way upon armed security in a top government building would lead to something like this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflower_Student_Movement#Occupation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflower_Student_Movement#Occ... In 2014 political activists in Taiwan occupied the legislative yuan (something like congress or parliament). No one was killed. My position is shooting and killing an unarmed protestor entering a government building is abhorrent, full stop. Doesn't matter if you disagree or agree with their motives.
- ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
  My position is that it is good that most people are capable of employing more nuance than your position (accounting for violent insurrection, for example), and do so
  - LAC-Tech 4y ago
    Nuance is a very weaselly way of saying "it's a peaceful protest when people I like do it, it's violent insurrection when people I don't do it".
    - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
      that's just a longer, more weaseley, and oddly-specific way of saying "nuance", as in, "people capable of nuance can usually differentiate between a protest and an insurrection"