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Come on, I would lose contact with most of my friends if facebook is banned in Europe. Let's stop being obtuse and ignore the fact that there are actual users o

by baby 4y ago

Come on, I would lose contact with most of my friends if facebook is banned in Europe. Let's stop being obtuse and ignore the fact that there are actual users of the product.

oliwarner 4y ago
And if you were told it would be banned next month, you'd all find another way to contact each other. You'd congregate around something in much the same way you did around WhatsApp and Facebook, way back when. It would be inconvenient for many people to migrate but let's stop being obtuse and ignore the fact that there are alternatives that comply with local laws.
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  There's a real risk for communities, though. A group of communities currently on Facebook may see their members flee to several independent alternatives, which will kill any cross-group participation. That stuff has the ability to break communities which may never grow back in the same form. I'd much rather see Facebook and Whatsapp follow the law than see the general population get an even worse feeling about data privacy laws. Banning these platforms plays right into the books of the tech giants.
  - oliwarner 4y ago
    I'd prefer compliance and I think Meta would too. On potential societal damage, we already risk so much by being beholden to a few private companies rather than a protocol. Meta could turn off Facebook or major features overnight without warning. Governments should do everything they can to encourage diversity of providers.
- baby 4y ago
202206241203 4y ago
If it all relies on Facebook, are the friendships even there?
- baby 4y ago
  Yes
Aeolun 4y ago
Yeah. I think the point is I would only lose those friends on facebook.
hansword 4y ago
But you worked for Facebook. Most people have friendships outside of that.
- baby 4y ago
  Only recently, its irrelevant
  - hansword 4y ago
    I disagree. Just having FB in your public CV makes you an interested party already. Given you were sec lead at a FB project it is even conceivable you hold FB stock, which would make you a very interested party. I advise you to add a COI statement if you make future posts/comments about Facebook/meta/Zuckerberg. It is just good practice.
    - baby 4y ago
      No it's not, there's a reason I joined the company and it's because I always liked and used the product. Not everyone is a hater.
      - ngcc_hk 4y ago
        COI is nothing to do with love and hate. We need to know your position. Conflict of interest is important.
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bamboozled 4y ago
Honest question, do you consider these people actual friends or internet acquaintances. One thing I hate social media for is keeping me hyper connected to thousadns of people, it actually takes up a lot of time. I'm not saying I'm not grateful for having thousands of new friends, but I can also see that the people in front of me get less attention because of it. It feels like a bit of a hidden cost of social media often unaccounted for. I do wonder am I saving time because it's now enough to just message someone for their birthday rather than go see them; However I'm now messaging tens if not hundreds more people for their birthday then before.
- baby 4y ago
  Real friends
chmod775 4y ago
Someone who answers your request to stay in contact on another platform with "no" is not your friend.

by baby 4y ago

Come on, I would lose contact with most of my friends if facebook is banned in Europe. Let's stop being obtuse and ignore the fact that there are actual users of the product.

oliwarner 4y ago

And if you were told it would be banned next month, you'd all find another way to contact each other. You'd congregate around something in much the same way you did around WhatsApp and Facebook, way back when. It would be inconvenient for many people to migrate but let's stop being obtuse and ignore the fact that there are alternatives that comply with local laws.

jeroenhd 4y ago
There's a real risk for communities, though. A group of communities currently on Facebook may see their members flee to several independent alternatives, which will kill any cross-group participation. That stuff has the ability to break communities which may never grow back in the same form. I'd much rather see Facebook and Whatsapp follow the law than see the general population get an even worse feeling about data privacy laws. Banning these platforms plays right into the books of the tech giants.
- oliwarner 4y ago
  I'd prefer compliance and I think Meta would too. On potential societal damage, we already risk so much by being beholden to a few private companies rather than a protocol. Meta could turn off Facebook or major features overnight without warning. Governments should do everything they can to encourage diversity of providers.
baby 4y ago

202206241203 4y ago

If it all relies on Facebook, are the friendships even there?

baby 4y ago
Yes

Aeolun 4y ago

Yeah. I think the point is I would only lose those friends on facebook.

hansword 4y ago

But you worked for Facebook. Most people have friendships outside of that.

baby 4y ago
Only recently, its irrelevant
- hansword 4y ago
  I disagree. Just having FB in your public CV makes you an interested party already. Given you were sec lead at a FB project it is even conceivable you hold FB stock, which would make you a very interested party. I advise you to add a COI statement if you make future posts/comments about Facebook/meta/Zuckerberg. It is just good practice.
  - baby 4y ago
    No it's not, there's a reason I joined the company and it's because I always liked and used the product. Not everyone is a hater.
    - ngcc_hk 4y ago
      COI is nothing to do with love and hate. We need to know your position. Conflict of interest is important.

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bamboozled 4y ago

Honest question, do you consider these people actual friends or internet acquaintances. One thing I hate social media for is keeping me hyper connected to thousadns of people, it actually takes up a lot of time. I'm not saying I'm not grateful for having thousands of new friends, but I can also see that the people in front of me get less attention because of it. It feels like a bit of a hidden cost of social media often unaccounted for. I do wonder am I saving time because it's now enough to just message someone for their birthday rather than go see them; However I'm now messaging tens if not hundreds more people for their birthday then before.

baby 4y ago
Real friends

chmod775 4y ago

Someone who answers your request to stay in contact on another platform with "no" is not your friend.