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nobody here is talking about freight vehicles

by plankers 4y ago

lvass 4y ago
What are pick-ups used for, then? In my country they're mostly owned by farmers.
- deleted 4y ago
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- _whiteCaps_ 4y ago
  Around here they're used to drop kids off at elementary schools.
- corrral 4y ago
  They're popular in the US: 1) As status symbols (because they're expensive, and because their "truck = freedom" advertising has been very successful) that still read as blue-collar / "red"; and, 2) Explicitly because of their size—they're perceived (pretty accurately) as being far more likely to "win" a crash than a smaller car, and they also put you up high, so you have better visibility. Not sure if the latter actually translates to more safety, but it's certainly perceived to. This is also a big reason SUVs sell well. There may be some related "I like to intimidate other drivers" factor here, too (not my uncharitable guess, as I've heard it seriously expressed by truck owners, and I'm also not saying this is extremely common—but it's common enough that I've encountered it several times). For that last part, see again: status symbol. Some portion of the population owns trucks for the same reasons people own trucks in other rich countries, but that's not the reason they're unusually popular here. It's largely a form of class & political signaling ("I'm in your tribe, and also not poor") coupled with some tragedy-of-the-commons personal/family safety concerns. [EDIT] 3) Aspirational purchases and poor cost/benefit analysis. Think: the lettuce you buy then don't eat before it goes bad. "I really want to get into [x activity that is easier with a truck] and I need to buy a vehicle of some kind, so I should get a truck" -> buys truck -> does not actually use truck-specific functionality anywhere near enough to justify purchase vs. use of paid services or rentals.
- rascul 4y ago
  I use mine to transport tools and building materials.
- matwood 4y ago
  Definitely depends on where you live. I live on the coast in the south. Tons of people trailer boats. The 'smallest' truck that can tow (actually able to stop) my boat is a Tundra. Then there's people who own homes in the suburbs. Could I make multiple trips with my car to pick up 2500 pounds of sod for a project I just finished? Sure, I could also pay a lot to have it delivered in a couple weeks. And there's the other things like throwing my surfboard in the back or other 'fun' gear. Then there's trips to the dump, because trash won't pick up certain things. The reality is, having at least a single truck in the family is useful for anyone not living in a city.
albatross13 4y ago
tell me you've never been outside of a city without saying you've never been outside of a city, lmao.
- afavour 4y ago
  No one is saying pickup trucks are never used to haul large items. They’re saying the vast majority of pickup trucks purchased are not used for that purpose and even when they are it’s a couple of times a year, a situation where renting a truck ought to make a lot more logical sense.
  - albatross13 4y ago
    I'll go talk to some farmers and ranchers and get their take on renting a truck for work. I'm betting they'll see the economic sense in that.
    - yonaguska 4y ago
      While I generally agree with you, I live in a large metropolitan city, and there are just as many trucks being used for work as there are vanity trucks. The work trucks actually tend to the smaller side, think Chevy s10s and the most common working vehicle is actually a cargo van, mostly Ford transit connects. And then there are tons and tons of lifted wranglers and trucks that never see a day of work. It's laughable, as I grew up in a more rural area and never saw that. Excepting of course the redneck coal rollers with hanging nuts and all. But those were not that common. And I don't think I've ever seen a Hummer actually used on a job site.
    - afavour 4y ago
      Why does this talking point get employed every time this conversation takes place? As I said: > No one is saying pickup trucks are never used to haul large items Obviously some people use them for purpose. The majority don’t and are purchased as status symbols in suburbia. The fact that farmer do use them does not invalidate that.
- kube-system 4y ago

nobody here is talking about freight vehicles

lvass 4y ago

What are pick-ups used for, then? In my country they're mostly owned by farmers.

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_whiteCaps_ 4y ago
Around here they're used to drop kids off at elementary schools.
corrral 4y ago
They're popular in the US: 1) As status symbols (because they're expensive, and because their "truck = freedom" advertising has been very successful) that still read as blue-collar / "red"; and, 2) Explicitly because of their size—they're perceived (pretty accurately) as being far more likely to "win" a crash than a smaller car, and they also put you up high, so you have better visibility. Not sure if the latter actually translates to more safety, but it's certainly perceived to. This is also a big reason SUVs sell well. There may be some related "I like to intimidate other drivers" factor here, too (not my uncharitable guess, as I've heard it seriously expressed by truck owners, and I'm also not saying this is extremely common—but it's common enough that I've encountered it several times). For that last part, see again: status symbol. Some portion of the population owns trucks for the same reasons people own trucks in other rich countries, but that's not the reason they're unusually popular here. It's largely a form of class & political signaling ("I'm in your tribe, and also not poor") coupled with some tragedy-of-the-commons personal/family safety concerns. [EDIT] 3) Aspirational purchases and poor cost/benefit analysis. Think: the lettuce you buy then don't eat before it goes bad. "I really want to get into [x activity that is easier with a truck] and I need to buy a vehicle of some kind, so I should get a truck" -> buys truck -> does not actually use truck-specific functionality anywhere near enough to justify purchase vs. use of paid services or rentals.
rascul 4y ago
I use mine to transport tools and building materials.
matwood 4y ago
Definitely depends on where you live. I live on the coast in the south. Tons of people trailer boats. The 'smallest' truck that can tow (actually able to stop) my boat is a Tundra. Then there's people who own homes in the suburbs. Could I make multiple trips with my car to pick up 2500 pounds of sod for a project I just finished? Sure, I could also pay a lot to have it delivered in a couple weeks. And there's the other things like throwing my surfboard in the back or other 'fun' gear. Then there's trips to the dump, because trash won't pick up certain things. The reality is, having at least a single truck in the family is useful for anyone not living in a city.

albatross13 4y ago

tell me you've never been outside of a city without saying you've never been outside of a city, lmao.

afavour 4y ago
No one is saying pickup trucks are never used to haul large items. They’re saying the vast majority of pickup trucks purchased are not used for that purpose and even when they are it’s a couple of times a year, a situation where renting a truck ought to make a lot more logical sense.
- albatross13 4y ago
  I'll go talk to some farmers and ranchers and get their take on renting a truck for work. I'm betting they'll see the economic sense in that.
  - yonaguska 4y ago
    While I generally agree with you, I live in a large metropolitan city, and there are just as many trucks being used for work as there are vanity trucks. The work trucks actually tend to the smaller side, think Chevy s10s and the most common working vehicle is actually a cargo van, mostly Ford transit connects. And then there are tons and tons of lifted wranglers and trucks that never see a day of work. It's laughable, as I grew up in a more rural area and never saw that. Excepting of course the redneck coal rollers with hanging nuts and all. But those were not that common. And I don't think I've ever seen a Hummer actually used on a job site.
  - afavour 4y ago
    Why does this talking point get employed every time this conversation takes place? As I said: > No one is saying pickup trucks are never used to haul large items Obviously some people use them for purpose. The majority don’t and are purchased as status symbols in suburbia. The fact that farmer do use them does not invalidate that.
kube-system 4y ago