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Whilst the issues raised are serious and I don't want to detract from the severity of the allegations, but I really take issue with putting regular porn and fur

Whilst the issues raised are serious and I don't want to detract from the severity of the allegations, but I really take issue with putting regular porn and furry porn in the same league as pedophilia.

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pizzathyme 4y ago
If the regular porn and furry porn are being shared with children, it is very serious
- eptcyka 4y ago
  I agree, but then the issue is child abuse and should be clearly stated as such. Making vague remarks about someone's personal twitter account isn't that.
  - mschuster91 4y ago
    It's one thing if some random employee doesn't take care about a social media account that can trivially be associated with their company. But high-ranked executives, particularly in sensitive departments?! JFC it's not that hard to create an anonymous account on any social media site except Facebook.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  But they aren't and the article doesn't suggest they are.
throwaway5959 4y ago
Expect both to be banned or at least the idea brought up the next time Republicans are in power. Edit: you can downvote me all you want but all you have to do is look at MTG’s Twitter profile to see what I’m talking about. For instance: https://www.protocol.com/amp/mtg-sec-230-2657233040 https://www.protocol.com/amp/mtg-sec-230-2657233040
- h2odragon 4y ago
  Is banning porn better or worse than banning discussion of vaccines and their problems? How about this: "free speech" applies, equally, to posting furry porn and objecting to it.
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    one is a public health issue you’re posting nonsense btw
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  People downvote you like this sort of thing wasn't actively being discussed by conservatives even before RvW fell. Restricting sexual liberty is part and parcel of the republican platform.
- dfxm12 4y ago
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  - skybrian 4y ago
    I think that's true in some states, but not others.
Clent 4y ago
Agreed. Including those killed the tone of the article. It reads like a hit piece.
- dqpb 4y ago
  > It reads like a hit piece There’s nothing wrong with a hit piece if it’s factual
gamache 4y ago
When your company's product is targeted at children, it is definitely weird when your social media director and your head of trust and safety both include porn in their public online persona. Nothing wrong with porn, but it's relevant to this article.
- concordDance 4y ago
  "Weird"? So? It might be weird if the head of social media was an orthodox jew, it would also be unworthy of note.
  - acoard 4y ago
    It absolutely is worthy of note. I have nothing wrong with people selling porn, but it's not remotely kid appropriate. Society expects a large berth between the two. If a kids company hired a porn-star to sell their products that would be weird, even if they didn't mention porn while on the clock. Similarly it would be weird if Roblox was also a joint venture with PornHub. This wouldn't hold if they were just Orthodox Jews.
    - stickfigure 4y ago
      FWIW, I'd also flag extreme religious beliefs as "worthy of note": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_of_Us_(2017_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_of_Us_(2017_film)
  - kentm 4y ago
    I'm taking the claim of "sharing porn on social media" at face value. I have nothing against producing, sharing, and consuming pornography but its typically done in private. A social media persona is public. It is inappropriate to share pornography in public. When that public persona is attached to a place of responsibility, then doing so is showing poor judgement. It's not at all comparable to being an orthodox jew.
- nr2x 4y ago
  It shows incredibly poor judgment on the part of the company that they’d put anybody who shares porn online in charge of children. Lots of people consume porn, very few see fit to share it on social media.
KaiserPro 4y ago
I have much sympathy for this view point. However I think the main issue is that said person was using a "professional" twitter handle to engage in this sort of stuff. Sadly I suspect that the furry porn bit was added to make them seem more deviant. When it should be more a case of inappropriate.
claudiawerner 4y ago
It's genuinely distressing to me how the author has shoehorned in a suppsosed link between fictional fantasies published between adults on Twitter and actual child sex abuse and grooming. The fact the author chose to include these, as well as the dictionary rendition of 'loli complex' without delving any deeper into the reasons this subculture exists between adults shows a shocking lack of due diligence. The fact that somebody likes gay furry porn and posts nude pictures of themselves in adult spaces has nothing to do with child sex abuse. On the other hand, it isn't all that surprising; crusaders against porn and deviance frequently tie in far larger and more serious issues, but this author has done the opposite: take very serious issues of CSA and in order to inflame the reader's sensibilities feels he must mention that 'deviant' content.
- bil7 4y ago
  i think the author conflated "is openly sexual online" and "works on a game targeted at children". As you say, strong evidence in the article, cloudy delivery.
- cybrox 4y ago
  The article is not about pedophilia or child porn specifically but about all the different "Issues at Roblox" I'd say it's not exactly ideal for a company aimed at kids to have their public figures, supposed people of trust, sharing porn of themselves openly. I don't have an issue with porn but I can see how this is an issue for the company and its reputation.
- mock-possum 4y ago
  yeah it really feels like sex-negative sentiment, slutshaming, kinkshaming, etc. not being able to distinguish sex acts between consulting adults from child abuse is... I mean it basically means I lose all respect for the person. Unlike the victims they're supposedly concerned about, I am not a 13 year old boy, I'm not reading your article to beat the dead 'furry is cringe' horse.
anonymoushn 4y ago
The fine article also calls out tweeting about Ponies: The Galloping, an official Magic: The Gathering product featuring characters from My Little Pony, as the sort of thing one would only do if they were a danger to society.
betwixthewires 4y ago
It shows a trend of deviant behavior that coincides suspiciously with their work: building and marketing an online space designed to attract children. You can take issue with it if you want, but the fact is that there is real world overlap.
- int_19h 4y ago
  "Deviant" is a label that has been thrown at gay people for ages; why are we still using it?
  - mock-possum 4y ago
    'deviant' is practically a dog whistle - crucially, it lets the legitimacy of what is being deviated from go unquestioned.
    - betwixthewires 4y ago
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    Because it is an apt descriptor.
    - int_19h 4y ago
      Should gay people work with children?
      - betwixthewires 4y ago
        If they're not pedophiles or otherwise concerned with the sexuality of those children, sure. Why would it be otherwise?
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mock-possum 4y ago
yeah, the repeated references to furry porn - including a censored shot of what looks like absolutely bog standard bland furry porn - kind of caught me off guard too. like photographic child porn is record of child abuse and actual rape - furry and anime porn aren't even in the same league, and yet they merit being mentioned in the same breath here? Does this author have some particular axe to grind with furries or something?
- collegeburner 4y ago
  The internet is a bubble. Irl furry is still considered degenerate shit and not the kind of ppl u want around kids.
Aeolun 4y ago
I was feeling the same, but then I saw the actual pictures posted, and I tend to agree with the general feeling (director out of line), if not the exact words (furry porn bad).

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pizzathyme 4y ago

If the regular porn and furry porn are being shared with children, it is very serious

eptcyka 4y ago
I agree, but then the issue is child abuse and should be clearly stated as such. Making vague remarks about someone's personal twitter account isn't that.
- mschuster91 4y ago
  It's one thing if some random employee doesn't take care about a social media account that can trivially be associated with their company. But high-ranked executives, particularly in sensitive departments?! JFC it's not that hard to create an anonymous account on any social media site except Facebook.
vorpalhex 4y ago
But they aren't and the article doesn't suggest they are.

throwaway5959 4y ago

Expect both to be banned or at least the idea brought up the next time Republicans are in power. Edit: you can downvote me all you want but all you have to do is look at MTG’s Twitter profile to see what I’m talking about. For instance: https://www.protocol.com/amp/mtg-sec-230-2657233040 https://www.protocol.com/amp/mtg-sec-230-2657233040

h2odragon 4y ago
Is banning porn better or worse than banning discussion of vaccines and their problems? How about this: "free speech" applies, equally, to posting furry porn and objecting to it.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  one is a public health issue you’re posting nonsense btw
AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
People downvote you like this sort of thing wasn't actively being discussed by conservatives even before RvW fell. Restricting sexual liberty is part and parcel of the republican platform.
dfxm12 4y ago
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- skybrian 4y ago
  I think that's true in some states, but not others.

Clent 4y ago

Agreed. Including those killed the tone of the article. It reads like a hit piece.

dqpb 4y ago
> It reads like a hit piece There’s nothing wrong with a hit piece if it’s factual

gamache 4y ago

When your company's product is targeted at children, it is definitely weird when your social media director and your head of trust and safety both include porn in their public online persona. Nothing wrong with porn, but it's relevant to this article.

concordDance 4y ago
"Weird"? So? It might be weird if the head of social media was an orthodox jew, it would also be unworthy of note.
- acoard 4y ago
  It absolutely is worthy of note. I have nothing wrong with people selling porn, but it's not remotely kid appropriate. Society expects a large berth between the two. If a kids company hired a porn-star to sell their products that would be weird, even if they didn't mention porn while on the clock. Similarly it would be weird if Roblox was also a joint venture with PornHub. This wouldn't hold if they were just Orthodox Jews.
  - stickfigure 4y ago
    FWIW, I'd also flag extreme religious beliefs as "worthy of note": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_of_Us_(2017_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_of_Us_(2017_film)
- kentm 4y ago
  I'm taking the claim of "sharing porn on social media" at face value. I have nothing against producing, sharing, and consuming pornography but its typically done in private. A social media persona is public. It is inappropriate to share pornography in public. When that public persona is attached to a place of responsibility, then doing so is showing poor judgement. It's not at all comparable to being an orthodox jew.
nr2x 4y ago
It shows incredibly poor judgment on the part of the company that they’d put anybody who shares porn online in charge of children. Lots of people consume porn, very few see fit to share it on social media.

KaiserPro 4y ago

I have much sympathy for this view point. However I think the main issue is that said person was using a "professional" twitter handle to engage in this sort of stuff. Sadly I suspect that the furry porn bit was added to make them seem more deviant. When it should be more a case of inappropriate.

claudiawerner 4y ago

It's genuinely distressing to me how the author has shoehorned in a suppsosed link between fictional fantasies published between adults on Twitter and actual child sex abuse and grooming. The fact the author chose to include these, as well as the dictionary rendition of 'loli complex' without delving any deeper into the reasons this subculture exists between adults shows a shocking lack of due diligence. The fact that somebody likes gay furry porn and posts nude pictures of themselves in adult spaces has nothing to do with child sex abuse. On the other hand, it isn't all that surprising; crusaders against porn and deviance frequently tie in far larger and more serious issues, but this author has done the opposite: take very serious issues of CSA and in order to inflame the reader's sensibilities feels he must mention that 'deviant' content.

bil7 4y ago
i think the author conflated "is openly sexual online" and "works on a game targeted at children". As you say, strong evidence in the article, cloudy delivery.
cybrox 4y ago
The article is not about pedophilia or child porn specifically but about all the different "Issues at Roblox" I'd say it's not exactly ideal for a company aimed at kids to have their public figures, supposed people of trust, sharing porn of themselves openly. I don't have an issue with porn but I can see how this is an issue for the company and its reputation.
mock-possum 4y ago
yeah it really feels like sex-negative sentiment, slutshaming, kinkshaming, etc. not being able to distinguish sex acts between consulting adults from child abuse is... I mean it basically means I lose all respect for the person. Unlike the victims they're supposedly concerned about, I am not a 13 year old boy, I'm not reading your article to beat the dead 'furry is cringe' horse.

anonymoushn 4y ago

The fine article also calls out tweeting about Ponies: The Galloping, an official Magic: The Gathering product featuring characters from My Little Pony, as the sort of thing one would only do if they were a danger to society.

betwixthewires 4y ago

It shows a trend of deviant behavior that coincides suspiciously with their work: building and marketing an online space designed to attract children. You can take issue with it if you want, but the fact is that there is real world overlap.

int_19h 4y ago
"Deviant" is a label that has been thrown at gay people for ages; why are we still using it?
- mock-possum 4y ago
  'deviant' is practically a dog whistle - crucially, it lets the legitimacy of what is being deviated from go unquestioned.
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  Because it is an apt descriptor.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    Should gay people work with children?
    - betwixthewires 4y ago
      If they're not pedophiles or otherwise concerned with the sexuality of those children, sure. Why would it be otherwise?
      - int_19h 4y ago

mock-possum 4y ago

yeah, the repeated references to furry porn - including a censored shot of what looks like absolutely bog standard bland furry porn - kind of caught me off guard too. like photographic child porn is record of child abuse and actual rape - furry and anime porn aren't even in the same league, and yet they merit being mentioned in the same breath here? Does this author have some particular axe to grind with furries or something?

collegeburner 4y ago
The internet is a bubble. Irl furry is still considered degenerate shit and not the kind of ppl u want around kids.

Aeolun 4y ago

I was feeling the same, but then I saw the actual pictures posted, and I tend to agree with the general feeling (director out of line), if not the exact words (furry porn bad).