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I see whole solutions copied from other websites displayed on your site. Is that legal? Isn't there copyright on those?

by TekMol 4y ago

lancesells 4y ago
I would hope it's not legal. > Hello pulls in the raw text from all five search results linked on the search page to generate... Not to be negative but I think I'll stick to the sites and people that made the results and not a middleman that intends to charge for other people's work.
- GrinningFool 4y ago
  I think that framing is missing some nuance. Seems more like they would be charging for the process that goes into sifting through those results and pulling out other people's work on the user's behalf.
  - lancesells 4y ago
    Yeah, I can see there's a lot of work going into the process but it's still using other people's efforts without permission or compensation.
    - visarga 4y ago
      > using other people's efforts without permission or compensation Like every web search done on Google? That said, I think attribution links should be displayed, license too if available. Copilot should be doing the same to defuse this discussion.
      - lancesells 4y ago
        Yes. Google is doing wrong as well although I think at least some of the enriched links are set up by the web owners (although I could be wrong)
throwaway675309 4y ago
Ding ding ding. This is the exact issue that a vocal minority are whingeing over github copilot for. It's automatically pasting results from websites without embedding the necessary attribution - so if you copy entire functions from this search engine (which may be coming from stack overflow for which attribution is required), then you're guilty of the same thing. So I only see one of two outcomes: 1. Courts rule copilot is fair use in which case your search engine becomes largely superfluous 2. Courts rule copilot is infringement in which case all of these types of applications cannot be used commercially
- danuker 4y ago
  There are two separate issues: 1. Copilot itself infringing licenses (MS copying and sharing copyrighted code) 2. Developer infringing licenses (Allowing code from MS into own codebase). Case 2 is avoided by Hello, because it provides a link to the original, allowing the developer to find and respect the license. Therefore Hello is net superior (with respect to people using the service at least).

I see whole solutions copied from other websites displayed on your site. Is that legal? Isn't there copyright on those?

by TekMol 4y ago

I see whole solutions copied from other websites displayed on your site. Is that legal? Isn't there copyright on those?

I would hope it's not legal. > Hello pulls in the raw text from all five search results linked on the search page to generate... Not to be negative but I think I'll stick to the sites and people that made the results and not a middleman that intends to charge for other people's work.

GrinningFool 4y ago
I think that framing is missing some nuance. Seems more like they would be charging for the process that goes into sifting through those results and pulling out other people's work on the user's behalf.
- lancesells 4y ago
  Yeah, I can see there's a lot of work going into the process but it's still using other people's efforts without permission or compensation.
  - visarga 4y ago
    > using other people's efforts without permission or compensation Like every web search done on Google? That said, I think attribution links should be displayed, license too if available. Copilot should be doing the same to defuse this discussion.
    - lancesells 4y ago
      Yes. Google is doing wrong as well although I think at least some of the enriched links are set up by the web owners (although I could be wrong)

throwaway675309 4y ago

Ding ding ding. This is the exact issue that a vocal minority are whingeing over github copilot for. It's automatically pasting results from websites without embedding the necessary attribution - so if you copy entire functions from this search engine (which may be coming from stack overflow for which attribution is required), then you're guilty of the same thing. So I only see one of two outcomes: 1. Courts rule copilot is fair use in which case your search engine becomes largely superfluous 2. Courts rule copilot is infringement in which case all of these types of applications cannot be used commercially

danuker 4y ago
There are two separate issues: 1. Copilot itself infringing licenses (MS copying and sharing copyrighted code) 2. Developer infringing licenses (Allowing code from MS into own codebase). Case 2 is avoided by Hello, because it provides a link to the original, allowing the developer to find and respect the license. Therefore Hello is net superior (with respect to people using the service at least).