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>I’m hard-pressed to name more than a handful of web apps that I would say are genuinely good with no major flaw. >Content websites are a different matter. A s

by mb7733 4y ago

>I’m hard-pressed to name more than a handful of web apps that I would say are genuinely good with no major flaw. >Content websites are a different matter. A static or server-rendered content website with adequate typography and semantic markup is generally going to do its job pretty well. I feel the exact opposite. Most web-based applications are pretty incredible these days. It's the "content websites" that are insanely bloated and over engineered (and unnecessarily turned into "apps"). E.g. news sites, new reddit, recipe sites

kitsune_ 4y ago
Agreed. Most web apps are perfectly fine and can be phenomenal, especially when compared to what we all did back in the 90's on GeoCitites. And as you rightly point out, visit a recipe site, especially on mobile, in comparison.
deergomoo 4y ago
It’s so bad now that an ad-blocker is rarely sufficient, because even without the ads every other paragraph is broken up by some autoplaying video or some callout to a different article. In some cases I genuinely struggle to read an article without reader mode or an RSS reader that can scrape the full article.
- unsupp0rted 4y ago
  It's been years since I tried to read an article without reader mode. Reader mode is fast enough and accurate enough now that there's no need to bother not using it.
honkdaddy 4y ago
Airtable, Draw.io, Google Docs, and Photopea are all incredibly well-made web apps that are essentially complete products without any major flaws I can think of. Those were just the first four to come to mind, there are countless countless other wonderfully engineered full featured applications which run totally in your browser. It’s actually a bit of a marvel, when you think about it. There are great web apps and there are great native apps. I think what the author is asking for here is just “better software” and well, wouldn’t we all love that :)

by mb7733 4y ago

kitsune_ 4y ago

Agreed. Most web apps are perfectly fine and can be phenomenal, especially when compared to what we all did back in the 90's on GeoCitites. And as you rightly point out, visit a recipe site, especially on mobile, in comparison.

deergomoo 4y ago

It’s so bad now that an ad-blocker is rarely sufficient, because even without the ads every other paragraph is broken up by some autoplaying video or some callout to a different article. In some cases I genuinely struggle to read an article without reader mode or an RSS reader that can scrape the full article.

unsupp0rted 4y ago
It's been years since I tried to read an article without reader mode. Reader mode is fast enough and accurate enough now that there's no need to bother not using it.

honkdaddy 4y ago

Airtable, Draw.io, Google Docs, and Photopea are all incredibly well-made web apps that are essentially complete products without any major flaws I can think of. Those were just the first four to come to mind, there are countless countless other wonderfully engineered full featured applications which run totally in your browser. It’s actually a bit of a marvel, when you think about it. There are great web apps and there are great native apps. I think what the author is asking for here is just “better software” and well, wouldn’t we all love that :)