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The article is extremely poor. But you cannot say that there isn't fascism in the US; Mr DeSantis has signed a law asking for the political ideology of faculty

The article is extremely poor. But you cannot say that there isn't fascism in the US; Mr DeSantis has signed a law asking for the political ideology of faculty and students, and a lot of people are clapping. It is also a country with deep structural racism and a police force that's infiltrated with literal fascists. All that can be true and completely unrelated with the bad premises of the article.

bequanna 4y ago
> Mr DeSantis has signed a law asking for the political ideology of faculty and students Sorry, I’m not sure which law you’re referring to here. Can you elaborate?
- Daishiman 4y ago
  https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/04/01/judge-clears-way-for-intellectual-diversity-surveys-at-florida-colleges/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/04/01/judge-cle...
  - bequanna 4y ago
    There is a lot to unpack in that article but the spirit of the bill seems to be to expose professors who are forcing their politics on students by making voluntary surveys available. Do you think we should tolerate teachers who attempt to indoctrinate vulnerable students?
    - rkallos 4y ago
      The current SCOTUS seems to be fine with coaches coercing teenage athletes into public prayer sessions, overturning a previous SCOTUS ruling. Meanwhile, I find it ironic that the same state enacting this "intellectual diversity" law has specifically banned teaching critical race theory in public schools. A voluntary survey invites participation bias; respondents will likely skew heavily toward the "I feel I am being indoctrinated/I feel uncomfortable voicing my beliefs". The spirit of the law aside, this law looks like a lever to pull funding from universities where the median Floridian, who votes Republican, would feel like their views are being challenged.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Schools are already giving such surveys in the name of DEI. I agree such surveys are problematic from a first amendment standpoint. But what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
rayiner 4y ago
> But you cannot say that there isn't fascism in the US; Mr DeSantis Words have no meaning I guess.
- vinyl7 4y ago
puffoflogic 4y ago
The federal government has mandatory surveys to identify your race and ethnicity, under penalty of law. For every single person in the country. (This is done under the auspices of the census even though the legal authority is far from clear.) I'm sure you're just as concerned about those surveys which could be far more harmful than voluntary surveys about ideology.
- Daishiman 4y ago
  The surveys he wants are an ideological witch hunt and can be seen as such from a thousand miles away.

bequanna 4y ago

> Mr DeSantis has signed a law asking for the political ideology of faculty and students Sorry, I’m not sure which law you’re referring to here. Can you elaborate?

Daishiman 4y ago
https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/04/01/judge-clears-way-for-intellectual-diversity-surveys-at-florida-colleges/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/04/01/judge-cle...
- bequanna 4y ago
  There is a lot to unpack in that article but the spirit of the bill seems to be to expose professors who are forcing their politics on students by making voluntary surveys available. Do you think we should tolerate teachers who attempt to indoctrinate vulnerable students?
  - rkallos 4y ago
    The current SCOTUS seems to be fine with coaches coercing teenage athletes into public prayer sessions, overturning a previous SCOTUS ruling. Meanwhile, I find it ironic that the same state enacting this "intellectual diversity" law has specifically banned teaching critical race theory in public schools. A voluntary survey invites participation bias; respondents will likely skew heavily toward the "I feel I am being indoctrinated/I feel uncomfortable voicing my beliefs". The spirit of the law aside, this law looks like a lever to pull funding from universities where the median Floridian, who votes Republican, would feel like their views are being challenged.
- rayiner 4y ago
  Schools are already giving such surveys in the name of DEI. I agree such surveys are problematic from a first amendment standpoint. But what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

rayiner 4y ago

> But you cannot say that there isn't fascism in the US; Mr DeSantis Words have no meaning I guess.

vinyl7 4y ago

puffoflogic 4y ago

The federal government has mandatory surveys to identify your race and ethnicity, under penalty of law. For every single person in the country. (This is done under the auspices of the census even though the legal authority is far from clear.) I'm sure you're just as concerned about those surveys which could be far more harmful than voluntary surveys about ideology.

Daishiman 4y ago
The surveys he wants are an ideological witch hunt and can be seen as such from a thousand miles away.