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So are the moving to AWS? Are we going to have a complete breakdown of packages delivery next time there is an outage at AWS?

badgers 4y ago
This was from 2019: https://www.switch.com/fedex-signs-10-year-data-center-infrastructure-agreement-with-switch/ https://www.switch.com/fedex-signs-10-year-data-center-infra...
joekrill 4y ago
> The company is a known Oracle Cloud and Microsoft Azure customer.
- ehnto 4y ago
  Hard to say for certain. Companies that size often have many very independent operations run by separate internal departments. I have worked places with internal, AWS and Azure operations underway.
  - jon-wood 4y ago
    Where I am various parts of the business run workloads on AWS, Google Cloud, and Azure. To some extent I think this sort of behaviour is encouraged by large corporates because it makes contract negotiations easier if you're able to wave in the direction of the other cloud providers you're using and suggest it wouldn't be too hard to migrate over to them.
- andyjohnson0 4y ago
  I read the parent comment as questioning the wisdom of relying on a cloud provider (but not specifically AWS, as you indicated) for a global operation life FedEx. Even with service zoning, in extreme cases that provider constitutes a potential single point of failure. Unless FedEx are able to run their core systems on Azure and Oracle‡ then I think the point stands. It would be interesting to know how Fedex sees the risk/reward equation, and how Azure (for example) compares to a (IBM?) mainframe data centre in terms of reliability and uptime ‡ I'm not sure if there are any cloud neutrality solutions that permit this, but it is possible that FedEx have rolled their own.
sokoloff 4y ago
The article says: The company is a known Oracle Cloud and Microsoft Azure customer. With Amazon being a formidable logistics competitor, I can see why Fedex might be loath to fund a major competitor.
- rbanffy 4y ago
  > The company is a known Oracle Cloud and Microsoft Azure customer. I guess I'll prepare for the inevitable apocalypse then...
vasco 4y ago
Do you trust FedEx to operate datacenters better than AWS or Microsoft?
- anonymoushn 4y ago
  If AWS is charging a 1000% markup on a bunch of stuff, you don't have to be as good as them to save money doing it yourself
  - nostrebored 4y ago
    Which services do you believe AWS is charging 10x markup on?
    - anonymoushn 4y ago
      Egress
- voxadam 4y ago
  I don't even trust FedEx to deliver my packages and that's supposedly their core competence.
- kragen 4y ago
  Not especially, but that hardly matters; what matters is that FedEx's CIO doesn't trust FedEx to operate data centers in a way that is better for FedEx than AWS or Microsoft.

badgers 4y ago

This was from 2019: https://www.switch.com/fedex-signs-10-year-data-center-infrastructure-agreement-with-switch/ https://www.switch.com/fedex-signs-10-year-data-center-infra...

joekrill 4y ago

> The company is a known Oracle Cloud and Microsoft Azure customer.

ehnto 4y ago
Hard to say for certain. Companies that size often have many very independent operations run by separate internal departments. I have worked places with internal, AWS and Azure operations underway.
- jon-wood 4y ago
  Where I am various parts of the business run workloads on AWS, Google Cloud, and Azure. To some extent I think this sort of behaviour is encouraged by large corporates because it makes contract negotiations easier if you're able to wave in the direction of the other cloud providers you're using and suggest it wouldn't be too hard to migrate over to them.
andyjohnson0 4y ago
I read the parent comment as questioning the wisdom of relying on a cloud provider (but not specifically AWS, as you indicated) for a global operation life FedEx. Even with service zoning, in extreme cases that provider constitutes a potential single point of failure. Unless FedEx are able to run their core systems on Azure and Oracle‡ then I think the point stands. It would be interesting to know how Fedex sees the risk/reward equation, and how Azure (for example) compares to a (IBM?) mainframe data centre in terms of reliability and uptime ‡ I'm not sure if there are any cloud neutrality solutions that permit this, but it is possible that FedEx have rolled their own.

sokoloff 4y ago

The article says: The company is a known Oracle Cloud and Microsoft Azure customer. With Amazon being a formidable logistics competitor, I can see why Fedex might be loath to fund a major competitor.

rbanffy 4y ago
> The company is a known Oracle Cloud and Microsoft Azure customer. I guess I'll prepare for the inevitable apocalypse then...

vasco 4y ago

Do you trust FedEx to operate datacenters better than AWS or Microsoft?

anonymoushn 4y ago
If AWS is charging a 1000% markup on a bunch of stuff, you don't have to be as good as them to save money doing it yourself
- nostrebored 4y ago
  Which services do you believe AWS is charging 10x markup on?
  - anonymoushn 4y ago
    Egress
voxadam 4y ago
I don't even trust FedEx to deliver my packages and that's supposedly their core competence.
kragen 4y ago
Not especially, but that hardly matters; what matters is that FedEx's CIO doesn't trust FedEx to operate data centers in a way that is better for FedEx than AWS or Microsoft.