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One factor that's important not to overlook is that younger people, especially in developed nations, are drinking much less in recent years, even after the COVI
by jamal-kumar 4y ago
One factor that's important not to overlook is that younger people, especially in developed nations, are drinking much less in recent years, even after the COVID-19 lockdown. [1] It's just not really fashionable anymore. Everyone I know under the age of 25 or so, and (A smaller amount of) older people I know as well who have grown out of thinking being drunk is fun, are looking at it more as a quick way to get fat and sad.
[1] https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/sep/analysis-our-survey-shows-many-young-people-are-drinking-less-alcohol-lockdown https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/sep/analysis-our-survey-show...
- sergers 4y agoI have always looked at it as a social activity, than sole reason to be getting drunk. With my friends, if you wanted to get drunk, it w as s never at a pub, we were too cheap. We would just drink at home. In general, people are less outgoing, not specific to pubs. Look at restaurant closures in your area, retail stores etc... I bet the pub lines up with these
- baq 4y agoPersonally, the primary reason is hangovers take waaaaay too much time after 30
- standardUser 4y agoThere's no reason hangovers should be any worse in your 30's or 40's. Hangovers are mostly the result of poor drinking habits.
- robonerd 4y agoHa, and what bad drinking habits would those be? The popular answer is "drink water", but I didn't do that when I was young and I didn't have hangovers then. These days if I drink two beers and even twice as much fresh water, I'll be miserable the morning after. Consequently, I don't go to bars anymore and I buy a sixpack at the grocery store maybe two or three times a year.
- 14 4y agoThis is exactly why I quit drinking and have been sober for almost 2 years. I kept finding that one or two beers and I would feel like crap or get headaches the next day. I know about the drink water trick and it didn’t help. So finally gave up drinking and don’t miss it. Also other reasons to quit as other commenters mentioned is the price. Going out for a drink costs a lot of money. Just food and a non alcoholic drink cost me over $20. A couple alcoholic drinks would cost me 1/3 days pay. I would much rather not.
- justinhj 4y agoI would guess that this is just because young people have more energy and healing ability, both of which deteriorate with age
- jacquesm 4y agoYes, such as drinking to the point of getting drunk.
- rightbyte 4y agoI thought it was due to me drinking way less ofent and thus losing resistance. Are you sure?
- ezekiel11 4y agobtw I hear this a lot from North American/English speaking parts of the world but less in others. There seems to be more tolerance/less judgement towards drinking alcohol, its seen as an integral part of socializing, almost to a fault in some cultures. I wonder if this is some pre-emptive virtue signaling,since if you break it down, hangovers is largely the result of dehydration and loss of minerals. It might be that as you get older you retain less fluid or something, i do not know, just guessin. having said that, i can go without drinking. you tend to increase consumption in bursts, social events. it can cause a lot of societal problems (ex. south korea/russia) and combined with tobacco (ex. south korea/japan), its right up there in terms of toxicity with combining cocaine and alcohol (dramatically/needlessly increases toxicity). One might make the same judgement about cocaine hangovers or any substance for that matter.
- Trasmatta 4y ago> hangovers is largely the result of dehydration This is mostly a myth.
- jamal-kumar 4y agoIn my experiences between Asia and Latin America, if you're going to be drinking alot on whatever occasion, it better be with a lot of food. Even Eastern Europe for instance with their famous straight vodka shots have something (In Russian, at least) called 'zakuski' which means 'Something to bite after', which means after each shot you eat a pierogi or whatnot [1]. It really does a lot to dampen the after-effects beyond what water is capable of. You can get at most bars a full meal for around 5$ or sometimes even less. Cocaine isn't very popular with the locals, again especially the younger ones, as it's caused us a lot of societal problems (Stuff like people who don't even touch it ending up tied up in narco violence chiefly... It's just the worst vibes on top of that). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakuski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakuski
- cbau 4y ago> combining cocaine and alcohol (dramatically/needlessly increases toxicity) Because of cocaethylene? Can't find anything online that makes it clear what the danger is.
- bloqs 4y agoThis is common incorrect assumption, it's due to tolerance and consistency of drinking habits, including hydration and liver health.
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- barry-cotter 4y agoThis seems extremely unlikely to be true, based on personal experience and that of many other people. Sources?
- the_only_law 4y agoThe effects are great (for many but not all), and bars can be nice are if you're drunk, but the cost is just so heavy.
- hyperbovine 4y agoEver tried getting drunk in an English pub? It's surprisingly difficult.
- tailspin2019 4y agoName your time and place. Perhaps you’re doing it wrong :)
- hyperbovine 4y agoThe beer is both weak and expensive by US standards. I actually like it, you really can sit around drinking all day and not feel like a truck hit you the next.
- jen20 4y agoTry the rough cider instead… you can reliably forget a whole day for under £15.
- tailspin2019 4y agoThis made me chuckle
- shapefrog 4y ago> really can sit around drinking all day 11am to 11pm, 12 hours. Standard drinking rate of 4 pints an hour. 48 pints, and maybe a fish finger sandwich and a bag of pork scratchings to soak it up.
- tailspin2019 4y ago... otherwise known as "going pro"
- shapefrog 4y agoMonday night at the pub, thats when you see the true pros at work.
- pydry 4y agoIt was always a pricey hobby and wages have stagnated. I think that was the main driver - the rest is post hoc rationalization. Ditto with smoking.
- collegeburner 4y agoAlso bars got shitty prices these days. Most people pregame before they actually go out so they buy less there bc its too fucking expensive to get drunk out. Seems like prices at bars go up even faster than prices for alcohol retail.
- hbn 4y agoI'm far too cheap to order more than a drink or 2 at bars, but it tends to mean I keep a bottle of something at home which makes it dangerously easy to go too fast/hard
- madeofpalk 4y agoPersonally, the whole covid situ, and working from home just taught me to go over to friends places and drink at home rather than some shitty pub with expensive drinks that I don't like.
- AnonymousPlanet 4y agoThis sounds more like people going to pubs to get hammered instead of going there to be social. The beer gardens around here are full of people enjoying a cold one. No one goes there to get drunk. Same with the pubs (mostly). Tons of young people there. Maybe we just have a different pub culture on the continent?
- neaden 4y agoHow much of a business profit comes from people getting drunk though? One serious drinker might spend as much a small group of people just enjoying a beer or two.
- AdvancedCarrot 4y agoI live in the UK and honestly from what I've seen at least nice beer gardens are doing great, and even many of the regular pubs aren't necessarily doing badly. I think people do like going out for a drink (and certainly not just to get drunk), rather I think the bigger problem is that its become far too expensive for many.
- mmarq 4y agoAdults in the UK drink to get drunk, like Italian 15 year olds. It is different for young adults, who are adopting a more “continental” approach to alcohol.
- bloodyplonker22 4y ago> younger people, especially in developed nations, are drinking much less in recent years, even after the COVID-19 lockdown. [1] It's just not really fashionable anymore. and then you link to a 2020 article that analyzes drinking DURING lockdown. Well, of course it's going to be lower during lockdown in the initial phase of covid. What you've said is bloody misleading. > Everyone I know under the age of 25 or so, and (A smaller amount of) older people I know as well who have grown out of thinking being drunk is fun, are looking at it more as a quick way to get fat and sad. It's always binary to you people. Drinking moderately can be social and fun, but to you, it's only to get drunk and hammered and fat and sad.
- FredPret 4y agoTo “you people” doesn’t set a constructive tone.
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- dang 4y agoWould you please stop posting in the flamewar style and taking swipes at others in HN comments? You've unfortunately been doing it a lot lately. We ban that sort of account, because we're trying for a different sort of discussion here. You can make your substantive points thoughtfully; please do that instead. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- jamal-kumar 4y agoClearly and specifically referring to binge drinking here, a major societal problem which I'm glad to see is becoming less of one.
- syndacks 4y ago“I don’t drink, thanks. I just do hard drugs.”
- mnd999 4y agoInstagram ruined everything.
- shapefrog 4y agoPubs now have flower displays with a swing for the gram.