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Do people really need a lesson to know not to turn just in front of a tram?

by zelos 4y ago

mrlonglong 4y ago
People still do despite knowing this. Loss of licence is the only cure. My biggest peeve are idiots pulling in too close in front of a 44 ton truck just so they can turn left.
- soco 4y ago
  To many the loss of own car is a good enough cure. Trams can rarely pull a full stop in that time.
jacquesm 4y ago
If they do it may end up being a very permanent lesson, those things may look flimsy but they definitely aren't. A frontal collision between a truck and a tram in Amsterdam left the tram without so much as a dent, though it did have a couple of scratches in the paint work. The truck could have served as a mold to cast trams from.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  Off topic, but ~40 years back, I saw a Dodge pickup truck rear-end a Miata. It stove in the whole front of the truck, leaving the Mazda unscratched. Working as Designed.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Funny, that at first glance it looked like that was going to go the other way. I've seen a similar accident with a two decades old Volvo being hit 'midships' by a recent model Citroen, in spite of their respective reputation for safety that did not at all came out the way I expected. The passenger compartment in modern cars is quite amazing with respect to the kind of crash it can be in and your expectation to be able to open all four doors.
MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
Turning in front of them, cutting them off, passing when doors are open and people are getting off, driving in the reserved lanes (sometimes even getting stuck!). Yes, people are idiots around them. Toronto even has a tunnel for streetcars that's infamous for it: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/enough-is-enough-ttc-to-install-gates-after-yet-another-vehicle-drives-into-streetcar-tunnel-1.3847349 https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/enough-is-enough-ttc-to-ins... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/about-25-cars-have-driven-down-queens-quay-tunnel-tracks-since-2014-ttc-says-1.4571477 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/about-25-cars-have-dr... Installing a gate didn't even stop one driver: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-tunnel-suv-union-station-1.5435760 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-...

Do people really need a lesson to know not to turn just in front of a tram?

by zelos 4y ago

Do people really need a lesson to know not to turn just in front of a tram?

People still do despite knowing this. Loss of licence is the only cure. My biggest peeve are idiots pulling in too close in front of a 44 ton truck just so they can turn left.

soco 4y ago
To many the loss of own car is a good enough cure. Trams can rarely pull a full stop in that time.

jacquesm 4y ago

If they do it may end up being a very permanent lesson, those things may look flimsy but they definitely aren't. A frontal collision between a truck and a tram in Amsterdam left the tram without so much as a dent, though it did have a couple of scratches in the paint work. The truck could have served as a mold to cast trams from.

ncmncm 4y ago
Off topic, but ~40 years back, I saw a Dodge pickup truck rear-end a Miata. It stove in the whole front of the truck, leaving the Mazda unscratched. Working as Designed.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Funny, that at first glance it looked like that was going to go the other way. I've seen a similar accident with a two decades old Volvo being hit 'midships' by a recent model Citroen, in spite of their respective reputation for safety that did not at all came out the way I expected. The passenger compartment in modern cars is quite amazing with respect to the kind of crash it can be in and your expectation to be able to open all four doors.

MonkeyMalarky 4y ago

Turning in front of them, cutting them off, passing when doors are open and people are getting off, driving in the reserved lanes (sometimes even getting stuck!). Yes, people are idiots around them. Toronto even has a tunnel for streetcars that's infamous for it: https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/enough-is-enough-ttc-to-install-gates-after-yet-another-vehicle-drives-into-streetcar-tunnel-1.3847349 https://www.cp24.com/mobile/news/enough-is-enough-ttc-to-ins... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/about-25-cars-have-driven-down-queens-quay-tunnel-tracks-since-2014-ttc-says-1.4571477 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/about-25-cars-have-dr... Installing a gate didn't even stop one driver: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-tunnel-suv-union-station-1.5435760 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-...