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Roblox tried to sue me for $1.6M [video]

39 points by intunderflow 4y ago

Shadonototra 4y ago
racism, profanity, sexuality, toxicity, this kind of person shouldn't be allowed to join online games with kids
- robonerd 4y ago
  Roblox alleges that, but he denies it. Is there any public evidence against him? There is ample public evidence of malfeasance from Roblox, so their word alone is worth less than dirt.
  - tempuser 4y ago
    Regardless of a persons thoughts on Roblox - original comment is not wrong 17. In the days leading up to RDC 2021, Defendant Simon engaged his followers on Discord, glamorizing the April 3, 2018 active shooter and murder at YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California and threatening/taunting a copycat act of terrorism at Roblox headquarters in nearby San Mateo, California. Defendant Simon wrote to his followers to “wait until [someone] does it to Roblox.” 18. Then, during RDC 2021, Defendant Simon publicly posted a terrorist bomb threat to his Twitter account, knowing that the threat was false: “BREAKING: San Francisco Police are currently searching for notorious Islamic Extremist Julius Al Mohammad. If you see this individual at RDC please call 911 immediately.” Defendant Simon posted an image below this text purporting to depict the fictitious “Islamic Extremist” as having posted a YouTube video titled “SOMEONE BLOW UP ROBLOX NOW!” Defendant Simon made related posts, including: “Don’t Come to RDC Tomorrow.” Can read the full complaint here: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/01/judges-order-slaps-roblox-player-with-permanent-game-ban/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/01/judges-order-slaps-ro...
    - robonerd 4y ago
      Did Roblox go to the police with this?
      - refulgentis 4y ago
        Yes (source: clicked through, 4th para.)
gumby 4y ago
For some reason there is no transcript (auto generated from cc) and this is true for the last YouTube video I went to. Have YouTube stopped doing them?
- danuker 4y ago
  Possibly the video is too new and they haven't generated yet (or haven't met a threshold to offset the computational costs). I would also be worried if there were no auto generated transcripts; they help me as well.
  - gumby 4y ago
    > I would also be worried if there were no auto generated transcripts; they help me as well. I just skim the transcripts and almost never watch videos, which usually have too low a data rate.
    - danuker 4y ago
      Looks like even 2 days later and with 644k views, it has no CC. I am starting to get suspicious.
- Crosseye_Jack 4y ago
  There are no closed captions on the video. So thats prob why.
- devmunchies 4y ago
  It’s only an hour old. It takes time.
jordemort 4y ago
I never know what to say when another parent tells me their kids play Roblox. As I understand it, it's mostly a casino for children, complete with its own currency, and it offloads most of the labor of content creation to the kids and then pays them in company scrip.
- robonerd 4y ago
  > As I understand it, it's mostly a casino for children, complete with its own currency, and it offloads most of the labor of content creation to the kids and then pays them in company scrip. From what I understand, it's a sandbox which does encourage/facilitate those things, but is a flexible sandbox used in other ways as well. It seems generally toxic though, I've heard they've nurtured a culture of children bullying other children for having default/free skins and cosmetics (parallels to the fashion industry at large...)
  - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
    /me sits back, waits for someone to make a Robux<->ETH bridge
  - AndrewOMartin 4y ago
    Here's more than you wanted to know: - People Make Games: Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ - People Make Games: Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY I think you're right that it's something that can be used in good or bad ways, and the thrust of the argument is that there aren't the kind of safeguards you'd hope for to stop kids falling to one of the bad ways. Like how we keep kids out of Casinos (or used to at least, now we just ship casinos to kids in their FIFA games).
fxtentacle 4y ago
Misleading title. They successfully sued him, it's just that the damages awarded were "only" $150k out of their initial demand for $1.6mio. Apparently, he posted a fake bomb threat which then caused police to interrupt a roblox community event.
- deleted 4y ago
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tedunangst 4y ago
Some text format background: https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22894120/roblox-ruben-sim-lawsuit-banned https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22894120/roblox-ruben-s...

39 points by intunderflow 4y ago

Shadonototra 4y ago

racism, profanity, sexuality, toxicity, this kind of person shouldn't be allowed to join online games with kids

robonerd 4y ago
Roblox alleges that, but he denies it. Is there any public evidence against him? There is ample public evidence of malfeasance from Roblox, so their word alone is worth less than dirt.
- tempuser 4y ago
  Regardless of a persons thoughts on Roblox - original comment is not wrong 17. In the days leading up to RDC 2021, Defendant Simon engaged his followers on Discord, glamorizing the April 3, 2018 active shooter and murder at YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California and threatening/taunting a copycat act of terrorism at Roblox headquarters in nearby San Mateo, California. Defendant Simon wrote to his followers to “wait until [someone] does it to Roblox.” 18. Then, during RDC 2021, Defendant Simon publicly posted a terrorist bomb threat to his Twitter account, knowing that the threat was false: “BREAKING: San Francisco Police are currently searching for notorious Islamic Extremist Julius Al Mohammad. If you see this individual at RDC please call 911 immediately.” Defendant Simon posted an image below this text purporting to depict the fictitious “Islamic Extremist” as having posted a YouTube video titled “SOMEONE BLOW UP ROBLOX NOW!” Defendant Simon made related posts, including: “Don’t Come to RDC Tomorrow.” Can read the full complaint here: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/01/judges-order-slaps-roblox-player-with-permanent-game-ban/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/01/judges-order-slaps-ro...
  - robonerd 4y ago
    Did Roblox go to the police with this?
    - refulgentis 4y ago
      Yes (source: clicked through, 4th para.)

gumby 4y ago

For some reason there is no transcript (auto generated from cc) and this is true for the last YouTube video I went to. Have YouTube stopped doing them?

danuker 4y ago
Possibly the video is too new and they haven't generated yet (or haven't met a threshold to offset the computational costs). I would also be worried if there were no auto generated transcripts; they help me as well.
- gumby 4y ago
  > I would also be worried if there were no auto generated transcripts; they help me as well. I just skim the transcripts and almost never watch videos, which usually have too low a data rate.
  - danuker 4y ago
    Looks like even 2 days later and with 644k views, it has no CC. I am starting to get suspicious.
Crosseye_Jack 4y ago
There are no closed captions on the video. So thats prob why.
devmunchies 4y ago
It’s only an hour old. It takes time.

jordemort 4y ago

I never know what to say when another parent tells me their kids play Roblox. As I understand it, it's mostly a casino for children, complete with its own currency, and it offloads most of the labor of content creation to the kids and then pays them in company scrip.

robonerd 4y ago
> As I understand it, it's mostly a casino for children, complete with its own currency, and it offloads most of the labor of content creation to the kids and then pays them in company scrip. From what I understand, it's a sandbox which does encourage/facilitate those things, but is a flexible sandbox used in other ways as well. It seems generally toxic though, I've heard they've nurtured a culture of children bullying other children for having default/free skins and cosmetics (parallels to the fashion industry at large...)
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  /me sits back, waits for someone to make a Robux<->ETH bridge
- AndrewOMartin 4y ago
  Here's more than you wanted to know: - People Make Games: Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ - People Make Games: Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY I think you're right that it's something that can be used in good or bad ways, and the thrust of the argument is that there aren't the kind of safeguards you'd hope for to stop kids falling to one of the bad ways. Like how we keep kids out of Casinos (or used to at least, now we just ship casinos to kids in their FIFA games).

fxtentacle 4y ago

Misleading title. They successfully sued him, it's just that the damages awarded were "only" $150k out of their initial demand for $1.6mio. Apparently, he posted a fake bomb threat which then caused police to interrupt a roblox community event.

deleted 4y ago
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tedunangst 4y ago

Some text format background: https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22894120/roblox-ruben-sim-lawsuit-banned https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22894120/roblox-ruben-s...