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> with just a bit of a learning curve This downplays how bad many developers are. I have some web dev friends that know how to use exactly one framework, one l
by kortilla 4y ago
> with just a bit of a learning curve
This downplays how bad many developers are. I have some web dev friends that know how to use exactly one framework, one language, one source control, and never touch the cli out of a few commands stackoverflow told them to run. Changing from GitHub to bitbucket would be a major undertaking for them and that’s not even abandoning git.
They do well managing the small business apps they do, but they have no interest or motivation to learn anything different.
Now, keeping that bar in mind, there are devs worse than them that they complain about to me. They struggle with basic input validation (understanding what is executed on the client vs server, where strings can be trusted, etc).
Having come from Google, the tooling learning curve is only trivial if you already have a completely different mindset about what it means to be a programmer than 90% of the labor market.
- sidlls 4y agoThe “webdev” kind of person you’re talking about likely doesn’t have the same education as even a relatively unskilled “enterprise Java dev.” I think you’re overselling the complexity of using the tooling at FAANG type companies. The tech is complex, but a tiny fraction of the company actually works on that stuff.
- kortilla 4y agoWhat are you talking about? They have exactly the same education as an “enterprise Java dev”. It’s someone who ties their professional career to one language and one use-case.
- Aeolun 4y agoI’m inclined to believe that the enterprise Java dev can get away with knowing much less. Basically being a master of their domain, which incredibly valuable to the company they’re at, and not at all to the market as a whole.