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>That's a lot more than UFO believers have. UFO 'believers' have - since very recently - videos released by the US military in which they say 'detections of th

>That's a lot more than UFO believers have. UFO 'believers' have - since very recently - videos released by the US military in which they say 'detections of this object were confirmed by multiple sensor platforms' and 'we cannot identify this object and have no speculation as to its origin' or whatever the exact wording is. You know what I mean, the 'tic-tac' video. The narrative provided with that video confirms that the object/objects were detected by multiple types of sensor (visual, infrared, radar) and by multiple sensor platforms (aerial radar, aerial infrared, ship-based radar) and that the detections correlated. With those releases the the UFO landscape changed, to wit, the US military is now a 'UFO believer.'

krapp 4y ago
The thing is, none of that is evidence of alien spacecraft. The tic-tac videos are interesting, but i've seen plenty of rational explanations offered for them[0], and as far as I can tell the whole alien narrative around them was fabricated by sites like thedrive.com, who then later reported that the government (far from being 'ufo believers') found these craft to be purely terrestrial drones, likely from China[1,2]. You're free to ignore all of that and assume it's aliens but doing so is just superstition, not reason. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos#Potential_explanations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos#Potential_... [1]https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/drone-swarms-that-harassed-navy-ships-demystified-in-new-documents https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/drone-swarms-that-hara... [2]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31701319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31701319
themitigating 4y ago
To the US military a UFO is an unidentifid flying object. To UFO conspiracy theorists and the like they are alien ships. Stating you don't know what an object in the sky is , is a completely reasonable thing to do. Making the claim they are alien ships without any proof is not

krapp 4y ago

The thing is, none of that is evidence of alien spacecraft. The tic-tac videos are interesting, but i've seen plenty of rational explanations offered for them[0], and as far as I can tell the whole alien narrative around them was fabricated by sites like thedrive.com, who then later reported that the government (far from being 'ufo believers') found these craft to be purely terrestrial drones, likely from China[1,2]. You're free to ignore all of that and assume it's aliens but doing so is just superstition, not reason. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos#Potential_explanations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos#Potential_... [1]https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/drone-swarms-that-harassed-navy-ships-demystified-in-new-documents https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/drone-swarms-that-hara... [2]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31701319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31701319

themitigating 4y ago

To the US military a UFO is an unidentifid flying object. To UFO conspiracy theorists and the like they are alien ships. Stating you don't know what an object in the sky is , is a completely reasonable thing to do. Making the claim they are alien ships without any proof is not