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Maybe I'm being totally naive, but what I want from FB is not better discoverability and metaverse, I want my friends to put their lives on it like they used to

Maybe I'm being totally naive, but what I want from FB is not better discoverability and metaverse, I want my friends to put their lives on it like they used to a few years ago. I don't even put anything on it myself anymore because of the smell around the company, and very few people I know do either, so my feed now looks like a bunch of memes and random news, with adverts in between. Engagement with a real human purpose seems like a better goal than just beating tiktok, but yes I'm just being an old man nostalgic for the old innocent days.

boredtofears 4y ago
> I want my friends to put their lives on it like they used to a few years ago Really, you _want_ to go back to that? They don't have to regain your trust in any way? I don't think the "innocent" days were all that innocent, many were just naïve.
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
  > They don't have to regain your trust in any way? I think you misread the comment you replied to.
yieldcrv 4y ago
Impersonal blasts are done, and ephemeral stories are still common but becoming less broadly viewable as well and maybe on the way out. Its all groupchats, that you’re not in. 0 post instagram accounts are common in my circles, its still a fair assumption to assume they archived all their old photos as opposed to deleting them or never having any, but 0 post and story exclusive accounts (only create “stories” that are visible for 24 hours) are a fine way to interact. Just to be able to view your stories and send DMs. And many don't really engage with the stories, but maybe do more “close friends” stories that only a whitelisted group can see, even if the profile was already private. Its really more like hybrid of Snapchat and Tiktok now, and you need to make closer friends yourself. The network part about finding “people you met once” or “15 years ago” is done, people want more genuine connections right now, its going to leave lonely people in the dust if it hasn't already, but there are ways to take initiative yourself by adding a few people to your close friends list. This is how people are getting their engagement with real human beings, far better than status updates on a wall ever did. The latter would actually be a weird thing to me right now.
akudha 4y ago
What I would like is to not hear about Meta (Zuck, Sheryl …), at all. Even if they suddenly become the world’s nicest/honest company overnight, it would not be enough. They’ve already caused irreversible damage, both in the U.S and abroad. Some things in life are too broken and can’t be fixed. FB is one of these. Every time I hear their name, it is just a bad feeling
JKCalhoun 4y ago
It's like you're describing FB having gone from Public Broadcasting Station to Home Shopping Network. That sounds about right. (And the internet in general is becoming more and more a string of commercials — but don't let that comment keep you from getting off my lawn!)
spookthesunset 4y ago
It’s not the smell of the company that has significantly reduced my usage. For me it’s just the fact I cannot state any opinion at all because of the controversy it might cause. It’s just not fun anymore. The stakes got to high. All FB is good for now is an occasional cat or kid post. And even the kid pictures I don’t really feel comfortable with either because of the paper trail I would be leaving for my kid.
- 31835843 4y ago
  > For me it’s just the fact I cannot state any opinion at all because of the controversy it might cause. Years ago I would have rolled my eyes at this comment. As someone who is liberal and runs in liberal circles, it seems ludicrous to me that any sane person would get called out for anything not overtly racist or mean spirited. Then one time I asked in a group chat — with people I thought were my friends — about where I could read about trans kids getting hormone blockers, because I wasn’t really sure about giving kids (who generally don’t know what they want) the kinds of drugs that alter their bodies. The rebuke I got was swift and severe. For reference… I’m a mid-30s gay man who lives in the Bay Area, and I wasn’t even expressing an opinion. Yeah; I’m out.
earlyriser 4y ago
Engagement with a real human purpose is the focus of my app, ferris.app I'm not in FB anymore, but the old days were the best.

boredtofears 4y ago

> I want my friends to put their lives on it like they used to a few years ago Really, you _want_ to go back to that? They don't have to regain your trust in any way? I don't think the "innocent" days were all that innocent, many were just naïve.

inferiorhuman 4y ago
> They don't have to regain your trust in any way? I think you misread the comment you replied to.

yieldcrv 4y ago

Impersonal blasts are done, and ephemeral stories are still common but becoming less broadly viewable as well and maybe on the way out. Its all groupchats, that you’re not in. 0 post instagram accounts are common in my circles, its still a fair assumption to assume they archived all their old photos as opposed to deleting them or never having any, but 0 post and story exclusive accounts (only create “stories” that are visible for 24 hours) are a fine way to interact. Just to be able to view your stories and send DMs. And many don't really engage with the stories, but maybe do more “close friends” stories that only a whitelisted group can see, even if the profile was already private. Its really more like hybrid of Snapchat and Tiktok now, and you need to make closer friends yourself. The network part about finding “people you met once” or “15 years ago” is done, people want more genuine connections right now, its going to leave lonely people in the dust if it hasn't already, but there are ways to take initiative yourself by adding a few people to your close friends list. This is how people are getting their engagement with real human beings, far better than status updates on a wall ever did. The latter would actually be a weird thing to me right now.

akudha 4y ago

What I would like is to not hear about Meta (Zuck, Sheryl …), at all. Even if they suddenly become the world’s nicest/honest company overnight, it would not be enough. They’ve already caused irreversible damage, both in the U.S and abroad. Some things in life are too broken and can’t be fixed. FB is one of these. Every time I hear their name, it is just a bad feeling

JKCalhoun 4y ago

It's like you're describing FB having gone from Public Broadcasting Station to Home Shopping Network. That sounds about right. (And the internet in general is becoming more and more a string of commercials — but don't let that comment keep you from getting off my lawn!)

spookthesunset 4y ago

It’s not the smell of the company that has significantly reduced my usage. For me it’s just the fact I cannot state any opinion at all because of the controversy it might cause. It’s just not fun anymore. The stakes got to high. All FB is good for now is an occasional cat or kid post. And even the kid pictures I don’t really feel comfortable with either because of the paper trail I would be leaving for my kid.

31835843 4y ago
> For me it’s just the fact I cannot state any opinion at all because of the controversy it might cause. Years ago I would have rolled my eyes at this comment. As someone who is liberal and runs in liberal circles, it seems ludicrous to me that any sane person would get called out for anything not overtly racist or mean spirited. Then one time I asked in a group chat — with people I thought were my friends — about where I could read about trans kids getting hormone blockers, because I wasn’t really sure about giving kids (who generally don’t know what they want) the kinds of drugs that alter their bodies. The rebuke I got was swift and severe. For reference… I’m a mid-30s gay man who lives in the Bay Area, and I wasn’t even expressing an opinion. Yeah; I’m out.

earlyriser 4y ago

Engagement with a real human purpose is the focus of my app, ferris.app I'm not in FB anymore, but the old days were the best.