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I've also found that if I used the Logitech "unifying" adapter, I _still_ had significant 2.4Ghz spectrum interference -- the Logitech adapter was causing my bl

I've also found that if I used the Logitech "unifying" adapter, I _still_ had significant 2.4Ghz spectrum interference -- the Logitech adapter was causing my bluetooth headset (also in the 2.4Ghz spectrum) to have significant connectivity issues, and was also causing interference with some game controllers that operated on the 2.4Ghz spectrum in the same room. The Logitech devices connected to that dongle (an MX Master 2S and a K780) both also had frequent lag/stutter issues. You might ask, "how do you know that the Logitech devices were to blame and not one of those other devices?" Because I tested one-by-one removing each of the culprits and observing the results: - Just removing the game controllers from the room made no change - Just switching to a wired headset made no change - Switching the Logitech devices to bluetooth changed how _often_ the problems surfaced, but didn't remove the problems - Swapping the Logitech devices out for wired replacements solved the problem -- no more interference issues. I've gone all wired and dumped my Logitech wireless peripherals and not looked back. It was actually what got me into mechanical keyboards anyways, and that's a fun rabbit-hole I've been enjoying.

KennyBlanken 4y ago
I don't understand how Logitech mice are so popular given how frequently they fail due to switch problems. Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.
- dekhn 4y ago
  I've used Logitech mice for the last 20 years or more and have never had a button fail.
  - tempestn 4y ago
    I've had multiple buttons fail on my Logitech mice. It is an issue, even if not everyone experiences it. (And yet I still buy them because they have some of the best ergonomics and buttons layouts I've found in wireless mice.)
- rodgerd 4y ago
  Not a mouse, but there really is no competitor for the MX Ergo. I think this may be a problem in a few niches.
- ncmncm 4y ago
  I have not had button trouble, but they do just drop dead about every year or two. Corpses are piling up. I even try changing out the battery before I give up on it. That worked, once! Their Unify dongle usually has to be at the end of a USB extension cable for it to work at all, for me. I don't even try it without, anymore.
- least 4y ago
  Do their failure rates reflect some sort of massive deviation from the rest of the mice on the market? Given that most of the high end mice use the same switch manufacturers I'd guess it's more likely that you see more instances of people complaining about it online because they're vastly more popular than other mice manufacturers.
- Marsymars 4y ago
  Pretty much all my heavily used mice from any brand has eventually failed due to switch problems.
- sundvor 4y ago
  That's the cheaper Chinese Omron switches. They are complete rubbish for the price point, in a Logitech mouse, as you can't easily swap them out. Asus are now selling mice with hot swappable switches. I made the (sorry) switch myself after my G903 died, ie I couldn't hold the buttons steady. I see now that I should be able to source Japanese Omron switches that might be a bit better; the replacement in the G903 requires some patience and (to be developed in my case) skill, but it's not like I can break it any further. Will grab extra spares for my Chakram X at the same time.
- 0x_rs 4y ago
  The switches "plague" is a very well known issue [0] and it's not reassuring for any potential buyer as you have to return affected devices eventually, DIY replace the switches or hope contact cleaning spray keeps the problem at bay. Despite knowing this I still got an Ergo because, like another poster said, there really wasn't anything like it I found as comfortable (and the many 3D-printable ad hoc designs for further, extreme inclinations were a big incentive). 0. https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/o1jvsy/logitech_and_other_mouse_companies_are_using/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/o1jvsy/logitech_a...
- Delk 4y ago
  Interesting. This isn't to argue against that experience, but I still have and regularly use a wireless Logitech mouse that's at least around a decade old. I had my previous one for years in daily use as well, although I can't remember how it failed or why I replaced it. I wonder if they've changed something about the buttons.
- jareklupinski 4y ago
  personally it's because logitech is the only mouse that can store their custom mouse bindings and DPI onboard. every other mouse needs to have a daemon running constantly on the computer in the background for some reason, and that's a no-go for esports

KennyBlanken 4y ago

I don't understand how Logitech mice are so popular given how frequently they fail due to switch problems. Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.

dekhn 4y ago
I've used Logitech mice for the last 20 years or more and have never had a button fail.
- tempestn 4y ago
  I've had multiple buttons fail on my Logitech mice. It is an issue, even if not everyone experiences it. (And yet I still buy them because they have some of the best ergonomics and buttons layouts I've found in wireless mice.)
rodgerd 4y ago
Not a mouse, but there really is no competitor for the MX Ergo. I think this may be a problem in a few niches.
ncmncm 4y ago
I have not had button trouble, but they do just drop dead about every year or two. Corpses are piling up. I even try changing out the battery before I give up on it. That worked, once! Their Unify dongle usually has to be at the end of a USB extension cable for it to work at all, for me. I don't even try it without, anymore.
least 4y ago
Do their failure rates reflect some sort of massive deviation from the rest of the mice on the market? Given that most of the high end mice use the same switch manufacturers I'd guess it's more likely that you see more instances of people complaining about it online because they're vastly more popular than other mice manufacturers.
Marsymars 4y ago
Pretty much all my heavily used mice from any brand has eventually failed due to switch problems.
sundvor 4y ago
That's the cheaper Chinese Omron switches. They are complete rubbish for the price point, in a Logitech mouse, as you can't easily swap them out. Asus are now selling mice with hot swappable switches. I made the (sorry) switch myself after my G903 died, ie I couldn't hold the buttons steady. I see now that I should be able to source Japanese Omron switches that might be a bit better; the replacement in the G903 requires some patience and (to be developed in my case) skill, but it's not like I can break it any further. Will grab extra spares for my Chakram X at the same time.
0x_rs 4y ago
The switches "plague" is a very well known issue [0] and it's not reassuring for any potential buyer as you have to return affected devices eventually, DIY replace the switches or hope contact cleaning spray keeps the problem at bay. Despite knowing this I still got an Ergo because, like another poster said, there really wasn't anything like it I found as comfortable (and the many 3D-printable ad hoc designs for further, extreme inclinations were a big incentive). 0. https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/o1jvsy/logitech_and_other_mouse_companies_are_using/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/o1jvsy/logitech_a...
Delk 4y ago
Interesting. This isn't to argue against that experience, but I still have and regularly use a wireless Logitech mouse that's at least around a decade old. I had my previous one for years in daily use as well, although I can't remember how it failed or why I replaced it. I wonder if they've changed something about the buttons.
jareklupinski 4y ago
personally it's because logitech is the only mouse that can store their custom mouse bindings and DPI onboard. every other mouse needs to have a daemon running constantly on the computer in the background for some reason, and that's a no-go for esports