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So basically an actor system with relations between actors, reactivity and automatic persistence. Very interesting concept! Although I do wonder if this could

So basically an actor system with relations between actors, reactivity and automatic persistence. Very interesting concept! Although I do wonder if this couldn't be implemented as a library for an existing language. Doesn't seem like it is actively developed though, the compiler repo hasn't seen updates since November and the runtime repo since 2018.

dustingetz 4y ago
temporal.io = durable actors for microservices workflows
- samuell 4y ago
  Trying to understand what this is. A kind of Erlang runtime for Go/Java/PHP/TS?
  - samuell 4y ago
    Ok, found a good explanation now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30368838 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30368838
  - acjohnson55 4y ago
    I'd describe it as a system that let's you write software without regard for the lifecycle of the OS and hardware running it. The Temporal runtime takes care of rehydrating your program in the correct state if the underlying computer is killed. This eliminates a tremendous amount of incidental complexity most traditional monolithic and distributed architectures.
  - Myrmornis 4y ago
    The "Concepts" section is a good intro: https://docs.temporal.io/temporal https://docs.temporal.io/temporal
- sitkack 4y ago
  See also https://www.fluvio.io/ https://www.fluvio.io/
  - mathgladiator 4y ago
    I'm learning so much about a market I'm entering. My company is https://www.adama-platform.com/ https://www.adama-platform.com/
    - sitkack 4y ago
      Neat! Something, something, Greenspun but Erlang. You should check out Lumen. Not to dissuade you at all, but doesn't making a new language greatly limit who can use your platform? Or was it on purpose so that only frolicking goat angels can fly through the eye of a needle? BTW, would love to see a higher resolution image of your logo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule https://github.com/lumen/lumen https://github.com/lumen/lumen
      - mathgladiator 4y ago
        It does, but it offers some unique advantages as well. One of them is durability maintaining state between async/await calls. That is, the process can bounce and no one notices. The key challenge that I see is that I should focus less, in marketing, around the programming language and more on the data side.
      - mathgladiator 4y ago
        Also, https://www.adama-platform.com/i/adama-moderate.png https://www.adama-platform.com/i/adama-moderate.png is a better quality image. I paid someone on fiverr to make it.
        sitkack 4y ago
        Forever https://web.archive.org/web/20220702210553/https://www.adama-platform.com/i/adama-moderate.png https://web.archive.org/web/20220702210553/https://www.adama...
runeks 4y ago
> Although I do wonder if this couldn't be implemented as a library for an existing language. It definitely could. So could Elm, which — nonetheless — is an interesting and useful language (bordering on DSL).
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Elm is very interesting. Also the evolution of Elm from something more resembling Reactive Extensions to the current, more opinionated Elm-Architecture version. Also there is an Elm-Architecture clone in almost every language. You could also emulate it in React (probably using top level state, prop drilling and following the same patterns, typescript would help)

dustingetz 4y ago

temporal.io = durable actors for microservices workflows

samuell 4y ago
Trying to understand what this is. A kind of Erlang runtime for Go/Java/PHP/TS?
- samuell 4y ago
  Ok, found a good explanation now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30368838 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30368838
- acjohnson55 4y ago
  I'd describe it as a system that let's you write software without regard for the lifecycle of the OS and hardware running it. The Temporal runtime takes care of rehydrating your program in the correct state if the underlying computer is killed. This eliminates a tremendous amount of incidental complexity most traditional monolithic and distributed architectures.
- Myrmornis 4y ago
  The "Concepts" section is a good intro: https://docs.temporal.io/temporal https://docs.temporal.io/temporal
sitkack 4y ago
See also https://www.fluvio.io/ https://www.fluvio.io/
- mathgladiator 4y ago
  I'm learning so much about a market I'm entering. My company is https://www.adama-platform.com/ https://www.adama-platform.com/
  - sitkack 4y ago
    Neat! Something, something, Greenspun but Erlang. You should check out Lumen. Not to dissuade you at all, but doesn't making a new language greatly limit who can use your platform? Or was it on purpose so that only frolicking goat angels can fly through the eye of a needle? BTW, would love to see a higher resolution image of your logo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule https://github.com/lumen/lumen https://github.com/lumen/lumen
    - mathgladiator 4y ago
      It does, but it offers some unique advantages as well. One of them is durability maintaining state between async/await calls. That is, the process can bounce and no one notices. The key challenge that I see is that I should focus less, in marketing, around the programming language and more on the data side.
    - mathgladiator 4y ago
      Also, https://www.adama-platform.com/i/adama-moderate.png https://www.adama-platform.com/i/adama-moderate.png is a better quality image. I paid someone on fiverr to make it.
      - sitkack 4y ago
        Forever https://web.archive.org/web/20220702210553/https://www.adama-platform.com/i/adama-moderate.png https://web.archive.org/web/20220702210553/https://www.adama...

runeks 4y ago

> Although I do wonder if this couldn't be implemented as a library for an existing language. It definitely could. So could Elm, which — nonetheless — is an interesting and useful language (bordering on DSL).

quickthrower2 4y ago
Elm is very interesting. Also the evolution of Elm from something more resembling Reactive Extensions to the current, more opinionated Elm-Architecture version. Also there is an Elm-Architecture clone in almost every language. You could also emulate it in React (probably using top level state, prop drilling and following the same patterns, typescript would help)