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It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

by antiterra 4y ago

Cthulhu_ 4y ago
> People can hear me gulp Some people are into that <_<
- bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
  Throat mic ASMR is an untapped market.
hardwaresofton 4y ago
OP here -- yes this was definitely not a serious recommendation for anyone! I just thought some others might have possibly thought of this before (and now they don't have to do it!) I thought the tl;dr would cover it: > tl;dr - Don’t chuck the Sony 1000XMs/AirPods just yet. Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using), and have better background noise reduction but in a quiet room your usual bluetooth headset is still way more convenient.
- rob_c 4y ago
  just buy a proper mic or a roaming mic unless the choker look is more your choice, but then I doubt arch supports your webcam so nobody gets to see it...
  - hardwaresofton 4y ago
    > just buy a proper mic or a roaming mic unless the choker look is more your choice, Yeah I have/had a Sony 1000MX2, AirPods, a Corsair VOID (from a gamier time in my life), and a regular plug in headset+mic -- lots of redundancy in my audio setup. Have to admit that the convenience of a bluetooth headset I can wear and walk around is still the most convenient right now. The throat mic only being wired (for now) is a real bummer. > I doubt arch supports your webcam so nobody gets to see it... Arch actually is not at fault 99% of the time! Arch Wiki is quite possibly the greatest distro wiki to ever exist -- I happily run pacman every day and mana falls from the gods and everything works great usually. Webcam funnily enough has never been a problem :)
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dom96 4y ago
> People can hear me gulp it's already bad enough hearing people slurping/gulping with normal mics, this mic sounds horrible.
- priprifoo 4y ago
- lvncelot 4y ago
  On the other hand, it's further away from the lips so maybe there's less mouth sounds.
  - falcolas 4y ago
    Mouth noises can be (largely, not completely) trained out: - Don't rest your tongue on the roof of your mouth - Don't close your lips between words/sentences
- priprifoo 4y ago
remram 4y ago
The TLDR says: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone Seems like a claim to me!
- antiterra 4y ago
  I can accept a general claim that some throat mic has at least one advantage over an unnamed wired microphone.
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  Yep, lemme weaken that real quick -- I was thinking a really old kinda shitty one, technically musician grade gear is standalone and wired...
  - Forgeties79 4y ago
    Yeah I was looking over at my SM7b on my desk and considering writing something up, but decided against it. I was pretty sure you weren’t being that literal!
- soared 4y ago
  You pulled out a sentence fragment to completely change the meaning, not really a cool thing to do. > > tl;dr - Don’t chuck the Sony 1000XMs/AirPods just yet. Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using), and have better background noise reduction but in a quiet room your usual bluetooth headset is still way more convenient
  - IshKebab 4y ago
    That seems like the same meaning to me? Throat mics are absolutely not an improvement over a standalone wired microphone.
    - antiterra 4y ago
      They are if you prioritize mobility, and possibly otherwise, if you are talking about something like the plastic microphone with a wobbly mini plug that popped into my mind’s eye.
dangus 4y ago
I disagree, the article is proclaiming them to be a good solution: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using) I'll go as far to say that the author is making a completely false claim here and does the reader a disservice by not even attempting to back up this claim with a recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_eI9ungGE&t=228s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_eI9ungGE&t=228s I'll just go ahead and say it: throat mics sound like shit. Compare that to a popular dynamic microphone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9bniJsyb1E&t=57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9bniJsyb1E&t=57s The author doesn't seem to know that dynamic microphones only capture sounds directly in front of them, which makes them ideal for environments where there is background noise, especially if the background noise comes from further away. The other thing about AirPods is that they sound better connected to Apple equipment where they aren't limited by A2DP, and most AirPods owners own other Apple products. Also, any recent laptop is likely to have multiple built-in microphones with noise cancelling, and if it's a recent Mac the quality is actually incredible. The product I recommend that has been very flexible for my usage has been the Antlion ModMic Wireless. It has really amazing wireless quality without the need to mess with Bluetooth, as it uses a USB dongle. For PC gaming, I like to pair this with my over-ear Sony headphones, which are wireless headphones, but for my gaming purposes I plug in the wire and use the ModMic for input. Then, on the go, I can remove the microphone (mounted magnetically) and use my headphones as standard Bluetooth headsets. For my Mac, the solution I like is to use AirPods for the output, but use the Mac built-in microphone as an input (only a good solution if you're typing on an external keyboard, or else people will hear you typing). It sounds a lot better than the AirPods microphone. It's so good that the only practical step up is a dedicated dynamic or condenser microphone.
- JackMcMack 4y ago
  Your throat mic example is when listening through a radio link, versus a direct connection with the dynamic microphone example. I'm sure the dynamic mic sounds better than the troat mic, but this is not a fair comparison. Every mic sounds terrible through such a radio link. Antlion ModMic Wireless looks nice. I'm using the usb version with my wired headset. I'd really like a proper bluetooth dongle to combine wired microphone with wired headset. But that's almost impossible, because transmitting voice over bluetooth means the receiving audio switches to a very crappy codec. A dongle could theoretically present 2 bluetooth devices, one for audio and one for voice, but I'm not sure a phone or computer would play nice with that.

It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

> People can hear me gulp Some people are into that <_<

bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
Throat mic ASMR is an untapped market.

hardwaresofton 4y ago

OP here -- yes this was definitely not a serious recommendation for anyone! I just thought some others might have possibly thought of this before (and now they don't have to do it!) I thought the tl;dr would cover it: > tl;dr - Don’t chuck the Sony 1000XMs/AirPods just yet. Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using), and have better background noise reduction but in a quiet room your usual bluetooth headset is still way more convenient.

rob_c 4y ago
just buy a proper mic or a roaming mic unless the choker look is more your choice, but then I doubt arch supports your webcam so nobody gets to see it...
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  > just buy a proper mic or a roaming mic unless the choker look is more your choice, Yeah I have/had a Sony 1000MX2, AirPods, a Corsair VOID (from a gamier time in my life), and a regular plug in headset+mic -- lots of redundancy in my audio setup. Have to admit that the convenience of a bluetooth headset I can wear and walk around is still the most convenient right now. The throat mic only being wired (for now) is a real bummer. > I doubt arch supports your webcam so nobody gets to see it... Arch actually is not at fault 99% of the time! Arch Wiki is quite possibly the greatest distro wiki to ever exist -- I happily run pacman every day and mana falls from the gods and everything works great usually. Webcam funnily enough has never been a problem :)
- deleted 4y ago
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dom96 4y ago

> People can hear me gulp it's already bad enough hearing people slurping/gulping with normal mics, this mic sounds horrible.

priprifoo 4y ago
lvncelot 4y ago
On the other hand, it's further away from the lips so maybe there's less mouth sounds.
- falcolas 4y ago
  Mouth noises can be (largely, not completely) trained out: - Don't rest your tongue on the roof of your mouth - Don't close your lips between words/sentences
priprifoo 4y ago

remram 4y ago

The TLDR says: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone Seems like a claim to me!

antiterra 4y ago
I can accept a general claim that some throat mic has at least one advantage over an unnamed wired microphone.
hardwaresofton 4y ago
Yep, lemme weaken that real quick -- I was thinking a really old kinda shitty one, technically musician grade gear is standalone and wired...
- Forgeties79 4y ago
  Yeah I was looking over at my SM7b on my desk and considering writing something up, but decided against it. I was pretty sure you weren’t being that literal!
soared 4y ago
You pulled out a sentence fragment to completely change the meaning, not really a cool thing to do. > > tl;dr - Don’t chuck the Sony 1000XMs/AirPods just yet. Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using), and have better background noise reduction but in a quiet room your usual bluetooth headset is still way more convenient
- IshKebab 4y ago
  That seems like the same meaning to me? Throat mics are absolutely not an improvement over a standalone wired microphone.
  - antiterra 4y ago
    They are if you prioritize mobility, and possibly otherwise, if you are talking about something like the plastic microphone with a wobbly mini plug that popped into my mind’s eye.

dangus 4y ago

I disagree, the article is proclaiming them to be a good solution: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using) I'll go as far to say that the author is making a completely false claim here and does the reader a disservice by not even attempting to back up this claim with a recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_eI9ungGE&t=228s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_eI9ungGE&t=228s I'll just go ahead and say it: throat mics sound like shit. Compare that to a popular dynamic microphone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9bniJsyb1E&t=57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9bniJsyb1E&t=57s The author doesn't seem to know that dynamic microphones only capture sounds directly in front of them, which makes them ideal for environments where there is background noise, especially if the background noise comes from further away. The other thing about AirPods is that they sound better connected to Apple equipment where they aren't limited by A2DP, and most AirPods owners own other Apple products. Also, any recent laptop is likely to have multiple built-in microphones with noise cancelling, and if it's a recent Mac the quality is actually incredible. The product I recommend that has been very flexible for my usage has been the Antlion ModMic Wireless. It has really amazing wireless quality without the need to mess with Bluetooth, as it uses a USB dongle. For PC gaming, I like to pair this with my over-ear Sony headphones, which are wireless headphones, but for my gaming purposes I plug in the wire and use the ModMic for input. Then, on the go, I can remove the microphone (mounted magnetically) and use my headphones as standard Bluetooth headsets. For my Mac, the solution I like is to use AirPods for the output, but use the Mac built-in microphone as an input (only a good solution if you're typing on an external keyboard, or else people will hear you typing). It sounds a lot better than the AirPods microphone. It's so good that the only practical step up is a dedicated dynamic or condenser microphone.

JackMcMack 4y ago
Your throat mic example is when listening through a radio link, versus a direct connection with the dynamic microphone example. I'm sure the dynamic mic sounds better than the troat mic, but this is not a fair comparison. Every mic sounds terrible through such a radio link. Antlion ModMic Wireless looks nice. I'm using the usb version with my wired headset. I'd really like a proper bluetooth dongle to combine wired microphone with wired headset. But that's almost impossible, because transmitting voice over bluetooth means the receiving audio switches to a very crappy codec. A dongle could theoretically present 2 bluetooth devices, one for audio and one for voice, but I'm not sure a phone or computer would play nice with that.