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There's a good video on this that talks about how a similar technique might be used to terraform Venus over hundreds of years [0] The main physics problem I se
by headcanon 4y ago
There's a good video on this that talks about how a similar technique might be used to terraform Venus over hundreds of years [0]
The main physics problem I see is that Langrange points are naturally unstable [1], so the bubbles would need to be constantly correcting their orbit. This problem would be compounded by solar radiation "blowing" the bubbles back to Earth. There are clever ways to mitigate this for other designs which are addressed in the video, but I don't see it addressed in the article.
Edit: it looks like it is addressed somewhat in the source article linked in another comment, by placing the bubbles a bit further towards the sun than the L1 point to compensate for solar winds. Also, If a bubble does eventually become unstable, they may be cheap enough to destroy it and send another one up.
However, the primary problem I see with this approach is that we are simply not politically ready as a species to attempt a global-scale engineering project like that. Some countries may find that climate change actually benefits them [2], or may even impact a geopolitical rival even worse. These countries may be inclined to send a few missiles toward L1 if thats the case.
Edit: Additionally, even if this does succeed, countries may see this as an excuse to keep burning stuff despite the additional negative consequences of carbon emissions [3]
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-WO-z-QuWI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-WO-z-QuWI
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lissajous_orbit#:~:text=In%20practice%2C%20any%20orbits%20around%20Lagrangian%20points%20L1%2C%20L2%2C%20or%20L3%20are%20dynamically%20unstable%2C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lissajous_orbit#:~:text=In%20p...
[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/16/magazine/russia-climate-migration-crisis.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/16/magazine/russ...
[3]: https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/ocean-coasts/ocean-acidification#:~:text=Because%20of%20human%2Ddriven%20increased,the%20ocean%20becomes%20more%20acidic https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/ocean-co....
- yupper32 4y ago> However, the primary problem I see with this approach is that we are simply not politically ready as a species to attempt a global-scale engineering project like that. What's the point of bringing this up? Are you saying that their research is futile and that they shouldn't bother? That we should be funding something else? There are separate groups of people working on the social aspects. Let MIT and other research institutions deal with coming up with solutions, and let politicians and activists deal with getting the world ready. From everything I've seen, it'll take a global-scale engineering project of some sort to solve this problem. Might as well have the group of solutions ready for when/if the world is ready.
- headcanon 4y ago> Are you saying that their research is futile and that they shouldn't bother? Not at all! We should absolutely be researching and developing this type of solution. I fully believe that eventually every populated planet will have some form of solar mitigation strategy like this, but our political structures would have to evolve as well. I sincerely hope we're able to politically and societally support such a project this century, but I'm not optimistic on that timescale.
- Melatonic 4y agoI like your venus idea a lot - always seemed like the better planet to terraform anyways. Probably a LOT more chemicals and gasses to work with and of course more sunlight / heat. It has to be easier to remove shit we don't want than it might be to ship it all the way to mars.
- njarboe 4y agoToo bad Venus’ day is 243 Earth days long. Quite a terraforming project to spin it up. It’s gravity is quite Earth like, unlike Mars.
- ncmncm 4y agoThat is not the primary problem. The primary problem is that even attempting it would bring on global catastrophe just that much faster.