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Jetbrains doesn’t get my money because of how much of a confusing mess their product lineup is. They have a bunch of different IDEs sold separately that ultimat
by bogwog 4y ago
Jetbrains doesn’t get my money because of how much of a confusing mess their product lineup is. They have a bunch of different IDEs sold separately that ultimately seem to be identical except for language support. Why isn’t language support implemented as plugins if all the IDEs share a common framework? Last I checked, it seemed like they do have an “ultimate” version with multiple language support… except that one doesn’t support C/C++.
I was interested in buying CLion, but also needed to be able to work with Python in the same project. I couldn’t tell if that means I have to also buy the PyCharm IDE and deal with two different IDEs running at once.
It also doesn’t help that they have a subscription licensing plan. Even though they do have perpetual fallback, it doesn’t seem like a giant bloated IDE like this will hold up very long without updates.
So in the end, I just use Sublime Text. It’s far from perfect, but I can make it do nearly everything I need it to without having to strain my brain at the checkout screen.
- 1123581321 4y agoSublime is great. Clion supports Python (and you can edit any file from any of their products.) The easiest way to figure out if you like their apps before purchase is to just run the EAP version of one if your evaluation period expired.
- eropple 4y ago> It also doesn’t help that they have a subscription licensing plan. Even though they do have perpetual fallback, it doesn’t seem like a giant bloated IDE like this will hold up very long without updates. FWIW, I stopped updating paying for IDEA in 2019 and it hasn't bothered me. I don't do JVM stuff every day anymore, that's why I stopped, but when I have to go hack on something, it's just fine. Agreed on the multiple IDEs thing. I don't write C++ regularly but that'd make me tear my hair out.
- babelfish 4y agoIIRC IntelliJ is a superset of all their products
- gazby 4y agoI expect this is part of what they're talking about. "Intellj" doesn't exactly sound like it's a superset.
- crazysim 4y agoExcept for stuff like C/C++
- quietbritishjim 4y agoIntelliJ has two totally different meanings, by itself the name doesn't really identify a product. IntelliJ Community is pretty much just a Java (and other JVM language) IDE. IntelliJ Ultimate works with all the languages that work with their other IDEs (Python, Go, JavaScript, ...). This is the one you're talking about. C++ isn't listed even for this though [1] It's definitely confusing, even if Ultimate did support C++, because IntelliJ is primarily billed as a Java IDE. And with PyCharm, for example, the free vs paid difference is many useful extra features but still primarily aimed at the same language. Maybe they should've just called it JetBrains Ultimate IDE or something, rather than mentioning their Java IDE. [1] https://www.jetbrains.com/products/compare/?product=idea&product=idea-ce https://www.jetbrains.com/products/compare/?product=idea&pro...
- Dayshine 4y agoThey have a comparison tool: https://www.jetbrains.com/products/compare/?product=clion&product=pycharm https://www.jetbrains.com/products/compare/?product=clion&pr... But yes, it's simultaneously weird and great that the most cross-application languages (Python/Javascript) are supported in every IDE.