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>Now Thunderbird has added chat, that's great. What does it support, Slack? no. Discord? no. Oh. That's not great, then, that's useless. They're intending to ju
by stryan 4y ago
>Now Thunderbird has added chat, that's great. What does it support, Slack? no. Discord? no. Oh. That's not great, then, that's useless. They're intending to jumpstart a chat protocol with a client that's used by like 0.8% of users? Sure.
Thunderbird has had XMPP and other chat for many, many years now.
- Dan_Sylveste 4y agoLike I said, 0.8% of users. Slack and discord and maybe the MS product are what matter in the chat space. If you're not offering that then the dev resources would probably be better funnelled into bug chasing and UI consistency. 'It supports XMPP' that's great. ICQ support would arguably be more useful.
- hprotagonist 4y agoyou realize discord bans people who use third party clients, right?
- Dan_Sylveste 4y agoHeadless chrome isn't a third party client.
- Shared404 4y agoThat's the last thing I want in my Mozilla made email client. I'm pretty happy with added Matrix support though, may make me take a look at Thunderbird again in addition to aerc.
- NoraCodes 4y agoYes. It is. It's been confirmed multiple times that even using browser plugins that interact with the Discord client code in any way counts, in their opinion, as a "third party client".
- abnercoimbre 4y agoOne should note that doesn't really happen with Ripcord [0] though. [0] https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ https://cancel.fm/ripcord/
- mid-kid 4y agoI've seen multiple people be banned from using this client. It does everything in its power to remain unnoticed but you only need to come across the wrong server-side detection update once to get the hammer.
- glenstein 4y agoGood to know and unfortunate although not terribly surprising. I guess this is the recommended user experience that the commenter up the thread is suggesting be integrated into thunderbird?
- toastercat 4y agoThere were some automated bans that happened after an outage (years ago), but those bans got lifted. After that, I haven't seen anyone get banned for using Ripcord. But like all things, YMMV. The benefits of Ripcord outweigh the negatives for me.
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- xytk 4y ago> It does everything in its power to remain unnoticed It reports its user agent as "Ripcord"
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y ago> doesn't really happen Does that mean 0 cases (timeframe?) and official confirmation from the discord team that ripcord is allowed? If not it can and will happen (as before). Why would it be inherently different with ripcord?
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- smaudet 4y agoYeesh. I mean kind of makes sense but it doesn't make want to use them more...
- ajdude 4y agoI don’t know about Slack, but discord’s terms of service explicitly forbid external chat clients. It’s also proprietary, like Slack I believe. Maybe we should try and encourage more use of open protocols over things like Discord or Slack.
- agiacalone 4y agoThis. For the parent, please don’t hold Thunderbird accountable for services like Discord being hostile towards users.
- lproven 4y agoDiscord works in Franz. I don't like it and barely use it, but a couple of times a year I need to monitor certain groups, so I have a Franz tab which frames the webapp.