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So no proper Maildir support in an email client, but adding chat functionality is higher priority? Geezus... this is the Mozilla we know all too well.

gbear605 4y ago
I don’t know how it actually went down, but since it’s open source software the Matrix integration could have been written by a random developer who doesn’t work for Mozilla.
matthewn 4y ago
Thunderbird has been more than "an email client" for so long that people made the exact same kind of complaint when RSS support was added. Thunderbird is a messaging/communications client, and way more people will benefit from Matrix support than would ever benefit from Maildir support. Further, my understanding from the Thunderbird team's comms is that they are very much in control of their own destiny. I don't get the sense that Mozilla has much say in Thunderbird's roadmap (or even cares) at this point.
- digisign 4y ago
  That's what extensions are for.
- Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
  >Thunderbird is a messaging/communications client It's an email client.
dugite-code 4y ago
> but adding chat functionality is higher priority? Absolutely yes. Maildir support is a niche want, where as chat has become essential for many offices replacing email for most internal communication. Additionally the chat fuctionality has been available in one form or another for years but has been quite neglected. They have just finally extended it and cleaned it up
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Offices aren't replacing email. Email has logs... Matrix is designed to not keep logs.
  - dugite-code 4y ago
    For internal real time coms Slack, Microsoft teams and all the other productivity chat servers sugest otherwise. You can keep logs from a Matrix server if you configure it to do so.
    - inferiorhuman 4y ago
      That sounds like a good feature for a chat client, not Thunderbird.
numlock86 4y ago
Surely there is a Matrix to Maildir thing or something you can use, now that it supports Matrix. Duh. /s

gbear605 4y ago

I don’t know how it actually went down, but since it’s open source software the Matrix integration could have been written by a random developer who doesn’t work for Mozilla.

matthewn 4y ago

Thunderbird has been more than "an email client" for so long that people made the exact same kind of complaint when RSS support was added. Thunderbird is a messaging/communications client, and way more people will benefit from Matrix support than would ever benefit from Maildir support. Further, my understanding from the Thunderbird team's comms is that they are very much in control of their own destiny. I don't get the sense that Mozilla has much say in Thunderbird's roadmap (or even cares) at this point.

digisign 4y ago
That's what extensions are for.
Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
>Thunderbird is a messaging/communications client It's an email client.

dugite-code 4y ago

> but adding chat functionality is higher priority? Absolutely yes. Maildir support is a niche want, where as chat has become essential for many offices replacing email for most internal communication. Additionally the chat fuctionality has been available in one form or another for years but has been quite neglected. They have just finally extended it and cleaned it up

encryptluks2 4y ago
Offices aren't replacing email. Email has logs... Matrix is designed to not keep logs.
- dugite-code 4y ago
  For internal real time coms Slack, Microsoft teams and all the other productivity chat servers sugest otherwise. You can keep logs from a Matrix server if you configure it to do so.
  - inferiorhuman 4y ago
    That sounds like a good feature for a chat client, not Thunderbird.

numlock86 4y ago

Surely there is a Matrix to Maildir thing or something you can use, now that it supports Matrix. Duh. /s