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"there is a growing movement of people who are doubling up on remote jobs" Citation needed

paraph1n 4y ago
Actually, a citation is hardly needed here. 1. People want more money. 2. Remote jobs are becoming much more common as of late. 3. It is (much) easier to double up on remote jobs than non-remote jobs. 4. Doubling up on remote jobs results in more money. 5. Therefore, there is a growing movement of people who are doubling up on remote jobs. QED. I mean, it's pretty unlikely that this argument doesn't hold. I feel like you'd need a citation to counter it.
- Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
  >I feel like you'd need a citation to counter it. You don't need a citation to counter a baseless assertion. My assertion is that most people who apply for remote jobs are fairly honest (by culture) white-collar types who wouldn't think to 'double up on remote jobs' for the same reason they wouldn't think go out at night stealing catalytic converters, which is that they possess a basic sense of right and wrong. I mean, if you think that the average person is basically a scammer at heart, okay... Maybe you come from a low-trust culture, I don't know. I don't think most people who come from high-trust cultures would behave this way or think that behaving this way is okay.
  - paraph1n 4y ago
    No one is arguing that the average remote worker is doubling up on jobs. But many more are now compared to recent history. Stealing catalytic converters is directly harming another person and also punishable with prison time, it's hardly comparable to working two remote jobs. But sure, some (potentially large) proportion of white collar workers may not be willing to violate trust by working two jobs, but many would. Beyond that, if you think that all knowledge workers are ethical people, I would remind you about all the horrible software that exists in the world for the sole purpose of scamming or harming people. There's a lot of it. And it's all unquestionably much less ethnical than working two normal white collar jobs.
dc-programmer 4y ago
r/overemployed However I think a substantial number of posts are creative writing exercises
- heavyset_go 4y ago
  It's WallStreetBets-esque. Not sure if it's reached the stage where most of the people on that subreddit are taking ironic advice unironically like we saw with WSB.
  - dc-programmer 4y ago
    Nothing would surprise me in this age of post-irony. Fittingly, there is also apparently a grift component to it because the subreddit’s creator is hawking some service/product he’s selling.
    - heavyset_go 4y ago
      The post-irony age has some amazingly brazen grifts. It's funny to watch from afar, but the last near-decade has shown how close to home these communities and grifts can eventually hit.
- Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
  >However I think a substantial number of posts are creative writing exercises A lot of division trolling going on there, trying to foment labor militancy. r/antiwork is the most visible facet of it, endlessly trying to encourage strikes, calling out, sandbagging, etc. This overemployed stuff (people blatantly bragging about how they're getting so much money for barely working and how you're stupid if you don't try and scam the system) is another facet of it. It's the usual suspects exploiting and widening any and all divisions in society they can find.
  - dc-programmer 4y ago
    I can see this

Actually, a citation is hardly needed here. 1. People want more money. 2. Remote jobs are becoming much more common as of late. 3. It is (much) easier to double up on remote jobs than non-remote jobs. 4. Doubling up on remote jobs results in more money. 5. Therefore, there is a growing movement of people who are doubling up on remote jobs. QED. I mean, it's pretty unlikely that this argument doesn't hold. I feel like you'd need a citation to counter it.

Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
>I feel like you'd need a citation to counter it. You don't need a citation to counter a baseless assertion. My assertion is that most people who apply for remote jobs are fairly honest (by culture) white-collar types who wouldn't think to 'double up on remote jobs' for the same reason they wouldn't think go out at night stealing catalytic converters, which is that they possess a basic sense of right and wrong. I mean, if you think that the average person is basically a scammer at heart, okay... Maybe you come from a low-trust culture, I don't know. I don't think most people who come from high-trust cultures would behave this way or think that behaving this way is okay.
- paraph1n 4y ago
  No one is arguing that the average remote worker is doubling up on jobs. But many more are now compared to recent history. Stealing catalytic converters is directly harming another person and also punishable with prison time, it's hardly comparable to working two remote jobs. But sure, some (potentially large) proportion of white collar workers may not be willing to violate trust by working two jobs, but many would. Beyond that, if you think that all knowledge workers are ethical people, I would remind you about all the horrible software that exists in the world for the sole purpose of scamming or harming people. There's a lot of it. And it's all unquestionably much less ethnical than working two normal white collar jobs.

dc-programmer 4y ago

r/overemployed However I think a substantial number of posts are creative writing exercises

heavyset_go 4y ago
It's WallStreetBets-esque. Not sure if it's reached the stage where most of the people on that subreddit are taking ironic advice unironically like we saw with WSB.
- dc-programmer 4y ago
  Nothing would surprise me in this age of post-irony. Fittingly, there is also apparently a grift component to it because the subreddit’s creator is hawking some service/product he’s selling.
  - heavyset_go 4y ago
    The post-irony age has some amazingly brazen grifts. It's funny to watch from afar, but the last near-decade has shown how close to home these communities and grifts can eventually hit.
Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
>However I think a substantial number of posts are creative writing exercises A lot of division trolling going on there, trying to foment labor militancy. r/antiwork is the most visible facet of it, endlessly trying to encourage strikes, calling out, sandbagging, etc. This overemployed stuff (people blatantly bragging about how they're getting so much money for barely working and how you're stupid if you don't try and scam the system) is another facet of it. It's the usual suspects exploiting and widening any and all divisions in society they can find.
- dc-programmer 4y ago
  I can see this