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Setup a shell company in Bermuda that does the scrapping for you and then claim you buy the data from them. When they approach you just tell them you have a NDA

Setup a shell company in Bermuda that does the scrapping for you and then claim you buy the data from them. When they approach you just tell them you have a NDA and can't disclose the company. That'll keep them at bay for awhile... then when you're forced to disclose, they'll spend the rest of their time chasing a shell company in Bermuda. OR..... Just create a firefox extension that scrapes the pages for your users. There's many ways to keep this going while giving them the middle finger and serving your users.

staticman2 4y ago
If your data infringes copyright they will go after you not your fictitious shell company because it doesn't matter where you got the copyright infringing material it matters whether you illegally distributed it.
- emilfihlman 4y ago
  No standing, others are allowed to create the same database by themselves.
  - epgui 4y ago
    Good luck with that! Rule of thumb: as a baseline, you have absolutely no rights in life... that is, no rights unless you're able to enforce them.
baobob 4y ago
> That'll keep them at bay for awhile This definitely would not work in the UK, and I don't know of many places it would. Asda does 22bn GBP revenue per year
ineedasername 4y ago
Being on the right side of the law is irrelevant if you can't afford to defend yourself in court. It's not about winning in court, it's about not having the resources to go to court & fight it to begin with.
- vintermann 4y ago
  Also, laws only matter when the outcome doesn't to the people in charge. Just because "the law is on your side" doesn't mean you'll win even if you could afford it, because laws don't magically rule on their own. It is judges, with all their pettiness and cravenness and nepotism, which rule.
teddyh 4y ago
NB: It’s scraping, not scrapping.
nly 4y ago
If you're going to that much trouble why not host the entire thing anonymously from Bermuda or Russia or somewhere?

staticman2 4y ago

If your data infringes copyright they will go after you not your fictitious shell company because it doesn't matter where you got the copyright infringing material it matters whether you illegally distributed it.

emilfihlman 4y ago
No standing, others are allowed to create the same database by themselves.
- epgui 4y ago
  Good luck with that! Rule of thumb: as a baseline, you have absolutely no rights in life... that is, no rights unless you're able to enforce them.

baobob 4y ago

> That'll keep them at bay for awhile This definitely would not work in the UK, and I don't know of many places it would. Asda does 22bn GBP revenue per year

ineedasername 4y ago

Being on the right side of the law is irrelevant if you can't afford to defend yourself in court. It's not about winning in court, it's about not having the resources to go to court & fight it to begin with.

vintermann 4y ago
Also, laws only matter when the outcome doesn't to the people in charge. Just because "the law is on your side" doesn't mean you'll win even if you could afford it, because laws don't magically rule on their own. It is judges, with all their pettiness and cravenness and nepotism, which rule.

teddyh 4y ago

NB: It’s scraping, not scrapping.

nly 4y ago

If you're going to that much trouble why not host the entire thing anonymously from Bermuda or Russia or somewhere?