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I wonder why this data can't just be stored locally on the device? Unless you want to share it with other devices you own, it should be trivial to do so. Perhap

I wonder why this data can't just be stored locally on the device? Unless you want to share it with other devices you own, it should be trivial to do so. Perhaps Apple and Google with their walled gardens can enact a data privacy and storage requirement for apps? Any personal data that is being collected should remain local to the app in encrypted storage. Furthermore it should be able to be viewable by the end-user and also deleted at anytime. Remote access to this data should also be limited if not prohibited.

danuker 4y ago
> can enact a data privacy and storage requirement for apps? Sure they can. But they're probably making money from the arrangement somehow. At least the app publishing fee, but possibly also all data going through their APIs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebase#User_privacy_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebase#User_privacy_controve... https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/01/us-federal-judge-dismisses-breach-of-contract-claims-in-privacy-class-action-against-google/ https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/01/us-federal-judge-dismiss...
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sshine 4y ago
> I wonder why this data can't just be stored locally on the device? Period trackers can achieve better prediction by training a model on massive data. Fitness trackers in general have all sorts of reason to upload data. The most legitimate reasons are that the dashboards and backups are online. Fundamentally, the predominant business model is to take people's data as payment. This continues to be the norm that numbs people into giving it without question or concern. --- How accurate would Apple or Facebook be at predicting someone's period without asking?
- danuker 4y ago
  > the dashboards This is what I call a Service as a Software Substitute, or SaaSS. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s... Volunteers reverse-engineered Bluetooth scales and created all the dashboard you could ever want, and it can export CSV. A company can make the app have a dashboard. Rather than let unnamed third parties target ads through my weight, I would have returned my scale had this not existed: https://github.com/oliexdev/openScale https://github.com/oliexdev/openScale
MBCook 4y ago
> I wonder why this data can't just be stored locally on the device? That’s what Apple does for their built-in functionality.

danuker 4y ago

> can enact a data privacy and storage requirement for apps? Sure they can. But they're probably making money from the arrangement somehow. At least the app publishing fee, but possibly also all data going through their APIs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebase#User_privacy_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebase#User_privacy_controve... https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/01/us-federal-judge-dismisses-breach-of-contract-claims-in-privacy-class-action-against-google/ https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/01/us-federal-judge-dismiss...

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sshine 4y ago

> I wonder why this data can't just be stored locally on the device? Period trackers can achieve better prediction by training a model on massive data. Fitness trackers in general have all sorts of reason to upload data. The most legitimate reasons are that the dashboards and backups are online. Fundamentally, the predominant business model is to take people's data as payment. This continues to be the norm that numbs people into giving it without question or concern. --- How accurate would Apple or Facebook be at predicting someone's period without asking?

danuker 4y ago
> the dashboards This is what I call a Service as a Software Substitute, or SaaSS. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s... Volunteers reverse-engineered Bluetooth scales and created all the dashboard you could ever want, and it can export CSV. A company can make the app have a dashboard. Rather than let unnamed third parties target ads through my weight, I would have returned my scale had this not existed: https://github.com/oliexdev/openScale https://github.com/oliexdev/openScale

MBCook 4y ago

> I wonder why this data can't just be stored locally on the device? That’s what Apple does for their built-in functionality.