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At all the places I worked previously in the last ~20 years there was always a sharp separation of development/testing and production environments. I as a devel
by haspok 4y ago
At all the places I worked previously in the last ~20 years there was always a sharp separation of development/testing and production environments. I as a developer never had access to any system in production, apart from one place which had a very sophisticated security system in place which could grant you temporary access during deployments. Just think about customer data, and you'll understand why.
So when I hear that someone thinks devops is developers running their own systems in production I always wonder where this is actually possible, let alone whether it is a good idea at all.
- Aeolun 4y agoI have the opposite experience. Given that I've been perfectly capable of doing ops work in the previous 5 companies I've worked at, suddenly being unable to do so in my current company because I'm classified as a 'dev', is supremely frustrating. Especially when you have more experience by yourself than the entire ops team combined.
- VectorLock 4y agoYou're just replacing one set of people with access to customer data with another. In either case you should be implementing least-privileges. Only the access to data that a person needs to get their job done. More frequently this is developers than operations people.