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> I think everyone should strive to move out in their early twenties, and I won't really go out with someone who doesn't have their own apartment and a job. Wh

> I think everyone should strive to move out in their early twenties, and I won't really go out with someone who doesn't have their own apartment and a job. Why would I do a ridiculous money churning move like that if I don’t have to? Why not instead work and save until I have enough to confidentially and financially save for a house?

giantg2 4y ago
Some people might be saving for a house. I would be that a significant portion of the people not growing up are spending money on vacations and "stuff".
999900000999 4y ago
A maturity switch flips off in your head when you get your own apartment. You're not wasting money, you're spending it on learning how to become an adult. Plus you'll be more open to moving to different cities, which is much much easier as a young adult than it is as an older person with obligations
- wink 4y ago
  You can't generalize that, or we'd see vastly different outcomes in 'adults' over things like... country or urban/rural. From my understanding it's simply a lot owed to culture. When I was in my early twenties, Americans tended to buy a house (with the attached mortgage) much more likely because it's a thing you do. In comparison here in Germany, NOBODY (except with very rich parents) would get or even buy a house. Also no one would give you the money for the mortgage in the first place. (Compounded by the fact that we'd typically finish university later than Americans would have their master's, don't even talk about a Bachelor's). Especially in the city, living with your parents until after uni (so around 25-28) was completely normal. Exceptions like going to a different city and getting an apartment notwithstanding.
  - 999900000999 4y ago
    Well, for my American context, it's the best way to grow up Once you have to pay your own rent, you quickly understand how the world works. When it comes to dating, I've never had a good experience with someone who was past 25 and wasn't independent. I got my first apartment when I was 19, and for the most part, I've been on my own ever since. The typical person I've met who's 30 or whatever and lives with their parents, has a massive entitlement problem. They're simply owed things. Their mom's being mean because their mom wants them to get a job.
    - Jcowell 4y ago
      > Once you have to pay your own rent, This doesn’t make sense to me cause you can still live at home and pay rent. That’s a reality for many Americans. > The typical person I've met who's 30 or whatever and lives with their parents, has a massive entitlement problem. They're simply owed things. Their mom's being mean because their mom wants them to get a job. It seems you have this notion that anyone still living with their parents at that age doesn’t have a job rather than having a job and saving money for an actual house.
      - 999900000999 4y ago
        This is based off of the people I've actually met. I'm not meeting people who are living with their parents so they can save up enough money to buy a house. Again, this is just based off of my experiences. One of my own uncles never moved out or did anything with his life, unfortunately there's just a lot of people like this. I have had a very unique life, and according to the lessons I've learned I'm extremely selective of who I'm around. If you're in your late 20s or 30s and you live with your parents, I'm going to have major doubts about your maturity. This is fine, not everyone is going to be attractive to me, and vice versa. The biggest issue is when you deal with someone who's used to having mommy and daddy take care of them, they'll want someone new to take care of them. I've known guys like this, I've known girls like this.

giantg2 4y ago

Some people might be saving for a house. I would be that a significant portion of the people not growing up are spending money on vacations and "stuff".

999900000999 4y ago

A maturity switch flips off in your head when you get your own apartment. You're not wasting money, you're spending it on learning how to become an adult. Plus you'll be more open to moving to different cities, which is much much easier as a young adult than it is as an older person with obligations

wink 4y ago
You can't generalize that, or we'd see vastly different outcomes in 'adults' over things like... country or urban/rural. From my understanding it's simply a lot owed to culture. When I was in my early twenties, Americans tended to buy a house (with the attached mortgage) much more likely because it's a thing you do. In comparison here in Germany, NOBODY (except with very rich parents) would get or even buy a house. Also no one would give you the money for the mortgage in the first place. (Compounded by the fact that we'd typically finish university later than Americans would have their master's, don't even talk about a Bachelor's). Especially in the city, living with your parents until after uni (so around 25-28) was completely normal. Exceptions like going to a different city and getting an apartment notwithstanding.
- 999900000999 4y ago
  Well, for my American context, it's the best way to grow up Once you have to pay your own rent, you quickly understand how the world works. When it comes to dating, I've never had a good experience with someone who was past 25 and wasn't independent. I got my first apartment when I was 19, and for the most part, I've been on my own ever since. The typical person I've met who's 30 or whatever and lives with their parents, has a massive entitlement problem. They're simply owed things. Their mom's being mean because their mom wants them to get a job.
  - Jcowell 4y ago
    > Once you have to pay your own rent, This doesn’t make sense to me cause you can still live at home and pay rent. That’s a reality for many Americans. > The typical person I've met who's 30 or whatever and lives with their parents, has a massive entitlement problem. They're simply owed things. Their mom's being mean because their mom wants them to get a job. It seems you have this notion that anyone still living with their parents at that age doesn’t have a job rather than having a job and saving money for an actual house.
    - 999900000999 4y ago
      This is based off of the people I've actually met. I'm not meeting people who are living with their parents so they can save up enough money to buy a house. Again, this is just based off of my experiences. One of my own uncles never moved out or did anything with his life, unfortunately there's just a lot of people like this. I have had a very unique life, and according to the lessons I've learned I'm extremely selective of who I'm around. If you're in your late 20s or 30s and you live with your parents, I'm going to have major doubts about your maturity. This is fine, not everyone is going to be attractive to me, and vice versa. The biggest issue is when you deal with someone who's used to having mommy and daddy take care of them, they'll want someone new to take care of them. I've known guys like this, I've known girls like this.