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> I wish this article was longer I submitted the link because it was the first time I saw this "elephant in the room" clearly defined and identified - not beca

> I wish this article was longer I submitted the link because it was the first time I saw this "elephant in the room" clearly defined and identified - not because the article proposed great solutions. Anyway, the author will see the traffic spike.. Let's wait for a longer article.

drewcoo 4y ago
> I submitted the link because it was the first time I saw this "elephant in the room" clearly defined and identified Really? Is there such a medical condition as "elephant blindness," because I can't see it. It's unclear to me what the author thinks adulthood is, why we need it, why people aren't (or don't want to) be adults, whether we suffer some kind of societal adult deficit, etc. This article's message is effectively "you kids get off my lawn - and stop being kids, too!"
- Cpoll 4y ago
  > This article's message is effectively "you kids get off my lawn - and stop being kids, too!" I'm not reading that at all. My reading of the article is: "Being an adult sucks." It doesn't really talk about kids at all, and if anything seems like a defense of youth being 'stuck in prolonged adolescence'. The important paragraph (imo): > For many, adulthood means trading a life entirely devoted to learning for one in which you only read (maybe) two books a year. It means swapping a full schedule of sports, clubs, and music lessons for having exactly zero hobbies (unless watching Netflix counts). It means going from hanging out with peers for the bulk of each day to (maybe) seeing friends a few hours a month. It means shifting from experiencing plenty of firsts to being stuck in a hamster wheel of thousandths.
- shswkna 4y ago
  I can‘t second your critique. The author describes a valid “problem” in many western societies: That many youths are not eager to take over the reigns and responsibilities of adult life. Arguably “western” society suffers from a lack of generational “handing over” of the many important roles and functions that a complex society requires to persist and build a successful future. That however, is probably a whole debate on its own.
  - wink 4y ago
    How do you define responsibilities of adult life, though? Isn't that still such a broad choice of things you should do and possibly are doing? Or maybe I'm actually doing it wrong, but I'm a lot happier since I've been working full time and cosplay as an adult. (Was working during uni and overall disliked it more than I liked it, maybe too involved but I find myself with a lot more free time now, also a lot more money, guess the only difference is that they expect me show up every day).
    - shswkna 4y ago
      To answer your question I would have to step into ideological territory. IMO, these things count as signs of adulthood: Having a stable relationship, building a family, building a business or being engaged in your community somehow. In essence giving and contributing, instead of (only) taking and benefiting from society. Kids are allowed that, adults have to be pillars of society. I know this sounds conservative, but it isn’t. Its just the only way a society can work and persist. The OP argued that we should make adulthood more attractive. I agree. Depending on where you live, life as an adult can be worthwile. I find that the key ingredient is community and social bonds.

drewcoo 4y ago

> I submitted the link because it was the first time I saw this "elephant in the room" clearly defined and identified Really? Is there such a medical condition as "elephant blindness," because I can't see it. It's unclear to me what the author thinks adulthood is, why we need it, why people aren't (or don't want to) be adults, whether we suffer some kind of societal adult deficit, etc. This article's message is effectively "you kids get off my lawn - and stop being kids, too!"

Cpoll 4y ago
> This article's message is effectively "you kids get off my lawn - and stop being kids, too!" I'm not reading that at all. My reading of the article is: "Being an adult sucks." It doesn't really talk about kids at all, and if anything seems like a defense of youth being 'stuck in prolonged adolescence'. The important paragraph (imo): > For many, adulthood means trading a life entirely devoted to learning for one in which you only read (maybe) two books a year. It means swapping a full schedule of sports, clubs, and music lessons for having exactly zero hobbies (unless watching Netflix counts). It means going from hanging out with peers for the bulk of each day to (maybe) seeing friends a few hours a month. It means shifting from experiencing plenty of firsts to being stuck in a hamster wheel of thousandths.
shswkna 4y ago
I can‘t second your critique. The author describes a valid “problem” in many western societies: That many youths are not eager to take over the reigns and responsibilities of adult life. Arguably “western” society suffers from a lack of generational “handing over” of the many important roles and functions that a complex society requires to persist and build a successful future. That however, is probably a whole debate on its own.
- wink 4y ago
  How do you define responsibilities of adult life, though? Isn't that still such a broad choice of things you should do and possibly are doing? Or maybe I'm actually doing it wrong, but I'm a lot happier since I've been working full time and cosplay as an adult. (Was working during uni and overall disliked it more than I liked it, maybe too involved but I find myself with a lot more free time now, also a lot more money, guess the only difference is that they expect me show up every day).
  - shswkna 4y ago
    To answer your question I would have to step into ideological territory. IMO, these things count as signs of adulthood: Having a stable relationship, building a family, building a business or being engaged in your community somehow. In essence giving and contributing, instead of (only) taking and benefiting from society. Kids are allowed that, adults have to be pillars of society. I know this sounds conservative, but it isn’t. Its just the only way a society can work and persist. The OP argued that we should make adulthood more attractive. I agree. Depending on where you live, life as an adult can be worthwile. I find that the key ingredient is community and social bonds.