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Ah Richard Dawkins... there's no such thing as a soul, but all human life has value, but not until they exit the birth canal. At some point the secular humanis
by andrewclunn 4y ago
Ah Richard Dawkins... there's no such thing as a soul, but all human life has value, but not until they exit the birth canal. At some point the secular humanists are going to realize that without any metaphysical / religious justification the notions of human equality and their moral and ethical framework become completely arbitrary. The "cut flower thesis" that we're basically just running on steam as we've severed the roots and foundations of our beliefs (in the West this would be the Bible) isn't just a thought experiment, you can plainly see it in the world around you.
So those "backwards regressives" who cling to the old ways... oh, they're the only ones reproducing at replacement rates... perhaps because they don't kill their unborn, put off family until they're beyond their health fertility window, sterilize their kids with hormone treatments, or any other countless self-destructive practices promoted by the modern "intellectuals." Turns out if we judge ideologies through meme theory, where those that are symbiotic rather than parasitic to their host (aka believer), are superior... traditional religion beats out all this modern BS. By purely Darwinian metrics "God's wisdom" is better than "institutional science" (which is little more than a corrupt cult claiming to be about empiricism at this point).
So now your days are growing short Dawkins, both for you personally and for your ideology. Yes, they think it's murder because they believe in God and a soul, which makes a lot more sense than believing that "human rights" are sacred when "human life" is not.
- vehemenz 4y agoGiven that the early Ancient Greeks were not Jews or Christians, and that most medieval theology heavily rehashes Plato and Epictetus, I'm not sure why anyone would suggest the Bible, rather than classical Greek thought, is the foundation of the West's beliefs. Furthermore, even if there are no serious defenses of moral realism without a mystical metaphysics, that doesn't entail anything. These values were around in humanity long before monotheism and its predecessors.
- andrewclunn 4y agoDo you speak Greek? Do you agree with slavery, child soldiers, an ethno-nationalist expansionist navy? What's your view on diddling little kids? Also, have you thanked Apollo for this morning's sun rise? Modern secular humanists trying to claim the Ancient Greeks for themselves? Hilarious... well, accept that the little kid diddling appears to be making a comeback, so perhaps you have me there.
- gaganyaan 4y agoAbsolute morality cannot exist, even if you posit the existence of some deity. Ethics and morality are completely arbitrary, and cannot be otherwise. The cut flower thesis is hilariously ignorant. The flowers of empiricism have finally grown too widely for the ignorant to stamp them out.