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One word: transgender. Any light criticism or joke results in a subreddit and site wide ban.

pseudo0 4y ago
100% accurate, they purged all the feminist subreddits that aligned with JK Rowling a couple years back. Ironically you are now hard-pressed to find a moderator on r/TwoXChromosomes who actually has two X chromosomes. https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hovdsi/just_about_every_remaining_terf_sub_has_been/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hovdsi/just_...
- richbell 4y ago
  > Ironically you are now hard-pressed to find a moderator on r/TwoXChromosomes who actually has two X chromosomes. Pointing this out would get you banned from Reddit extremely quickly. Not a criticism, just an observation.
multjoy 4y ago
Do you have any specific examples of the 'light criticism' or joke (including where it was posted) that directly caused the site-wide ban?
- himinlomax 4y ago
  I don't, because it's immediately scrubbed. But I've seen it happen ine real time.
  - multjoy 4y ago
    Very convenient.
    - himinlomax 4y ago
      What do you expect me to do? Hack reddit's Postgres databases to recover deleted comments?
      - multjoy 4y ago
        Offer up something more than a vague "I saw this thing one time, trust me on this"?
        Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
        I saw this thing many times. Trust me on this.
      - mgdlbp 4y ago
        There are several tools for viewing them, primarily based on Pushshift, an apparently individual-run database that grabs whatever it can from the Reddit API, usually within a few minutes. The frontends come and go; currently the major ones are unddit.com and reveddit.com (which honours user deletions, refusing to show them). There are also Pushshift-based sitewide search engines: redditsearch.io is made by the Pushshift creator but doesn't show deleted content. ihsoyct.github.io does, but is unreliable, often randomly missing some comments and posts in any one run of a query. With the amount of constructive comments/posts removed for seemingly no reason nowadays, and the blight of users overwriting and/or deleting helpful, otherwise anonymous comments when making privacy purges, I find it now more pleasant to browse with all deleted content shown than without.
- doublepg23 4y ago
  The Aimee Challenor debacle was a very high-profile, high-criticism, well documented incident.
paganel 4y ago
There is an entire and big-ish sub (I forgot its name) which basically just bans anything that mentions the word "trans", doesn't matter if it's a positive mention or a negative one, just straight up ban. It's not that they are pro or against the trans issue (they're an "edgy" sub, that I do remember), it's just that the mods don't want their sub getting nuked by the admins and, as such, staying as far as possible from that trans subject is the best course of action.
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  I would do the same. Not because of fear of reddit, but because I have rarely seen a debate on trans issues not devolve into a hurricane of piss and then the janitors/mods will have to mop up the mess. I got better things to do.
- professoretc 4y ago
  moderatepolitics does this, not because they want to, but because Reddit threatened to ban the entire subreddit if there was any discussion of trans issues.
JetSetWilly 4y ago
Meanwhile on late stage capitalism they stickied a post with home addresses of judges, encouraging people to arm themselves and generally being hysterical. And that’s OK because woke.
woojoo666 4y ago
Yup, just look at the recent r/tumblrinaction and r/socialjusticeinaction bans. The reason given for the bans were "promoting hate"
schrodinger 4y ago
You're being downvoted but even as a progressive liberal I do think that pushing political correctness too hard and too fast has resulted in this conservative backlash we're now seeing across our country. Change needs to be iterative and sensible. I was amazed at how quickly public sentiment opened up to gay marriage and legal marijuana for example, but now equally dismayed by how quickly the conservative backlash is happening across the country. The social version of agile rather than waterfall development I suppose…
- antifa 4y ago
  I'd hate to be the one to have to tell the minority picked last that their civil rights isn't scheduled until 2050.
  - schrodinger 4y ago
    I'm not saying that. Remember I'm saying I'm a super-liberal NYer trying to reconcile how good ppl in the rest of the country can have such different views. First I realize that if you've never met a black/trans/gay/immigrant person, you probably believe the worst of what Fox tells you. So as the progressive movement, we should give the benefit of the doubt to ppl (e.g. don't make a big deal of pronouns; state your pronoun without shame, but also realize that lots of ppl have zero experience w/ non-traditional pronounce so cut them some slack when they slip up). And find common ground. The biggest thing I learned moving from small-town all-white CT where yes, racism was prevalent to NYC was that wow, we're all basically the same. We all want the same basic freedoms and have the same struggles. Don't let politicians divide us and unite as Americans because we're almost all fucking immigrants.
  - Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
    Without being snarky, though, what's left to add? What minority is left disenfranchised?
    - antifa 4y ago
      If you can ignore the incompleteness of black/women/LGBT civil rights movements and the current attacks on black/women/LGBT rights, there's a lot that can be done in things like mental illness (both mild and extreme forms), medical debt, disability, poverty traps, veterans, homeless, prisoners.
lmc 4y ago
- deleted 4y ago
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- coffeeblack 4y ago

100% accurate, they purged all the feminist subreddits that aligned with JK Rowling a couple years back. Ironically you are now hard-pressed to find a moderator on r/TwoXChromosomes who actually has two X chromosomes. https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hovdsi/just_about_every_remaining_terf_sub_has_been/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/hovdsi/just_...

richbell 4y ago
> Ironically you are now hard-pressed to find a moderator on r/TwoXChromosomes who actually has two X chromosomes. Pointing this out would get you banned from Reddit extremely quickly. Not a criticism, just an observation.

multjoy 4y ago

Do you have any specific examples of the 'light criticism' or joke (including where it was posted) that directly caused the site-wide ban?

himinlomax 4y ago
I don't, because it's immediately scrubbed. But I've seen it happen ine real time.
- multjoy 4y ago
  Very convenient.
  - himinlomax 4y ago
    What do you expect me to do? Hack reddit's Postgres databases to recover deleted comments?
    - multjoy 4y ago
      Offer up something more than a vague "I saw this thing one time, trust me on this"?
      - Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
        I saw this thing many times. Trust me on this.
    - mgdlbp 4y ago
      There are several tools for viewing them, primarily based on Pushshift, an apparently individual-run database that grabs whatever it can from the Reddit API, usually within a few minutes. The frontends come and go; currently the major ones are unddit.com and reveddit.com (which honours user deletions, refusing to show them). There are also Pushshift-based sitewide search engines: redditsearch.io is made by the Pushshift creator but doesn't show deleted content. ihsoyct.github.io does, but is unreliable, often randomly missing some comments and posts in any one run of a query. With the amount of constructive comments/posts removed for seemingly no reason nowadays, and the blight of users overwriting and/or deleting helpful, otherwise anonymous comments when making privacy purges, I find it now more pleasant to browse with all deleted content shown than without.
doublepg23 4y ago
The Aimee Challenor debacle was a very high-profile, high-criticism, well documented incident.

paganel 4y ago

There is an entire and big-ish sub (I forgot its name) which basically just bans anything that mentions the word "trans", doesn't matter if it's a positive mention or a negative one, just straight up ban. It's not that they are pro or against the trans issue (they're an "edgy" sub, that I do remember), it's just that the mods don't want their sub getting nuked by the admins and, as such, staying as far as possible from that trans subject is the best course of action.

Beltalowda 4y ago
I would do the same. Not because of fear of reddit, but because I have rarely seen a debate on trans issues not devolve into a hurricane of piss and then the janitors/mods will have to mop up the mess. I got better things to do.
professoretc 4y ago
moderatepolitics does this, not because they want to, but because Reddit threatened to ban the entire subreddit if there was any discussion of trans issues.

JetSetWilly 4y ago

Meanwhile on late stage capitalism they stickied a post with home addresses of judges, encouraging people to arm themselves and generally being hysterical. And that’s OK because woke.

woojoo666 4y ago

Yup, just look at the recent r/tumblrinaction and r/socialjusticeinaction bans. The reason given for the bans were "promoting hate"

schrodinger 4y ago

You're being downvoted but even as a progressive liberal I do think that pushing political correctness too hard and too fast has resulted in this conservative backlash we're now seeing across our country. Change needs to be iterative and sensible. I was amazed at how quickly public sentiment opened up to gay marriage and legal marijuana for example, but now equally dismayed by how quickly the conservative backlash is happening across the country. The social version of agile rather than waterfall development I suppose…

antifa 4y ago
I'd hate to be the one to have to tell the minority picked last that their civil rights isn't scheduled until 2050.
- schrodinger 4y ago
  I'm not saying that. Remember I'm saying I'm a super-liberal NYer trying to reconcile how good ppl in the rest of the country can have such different views. First I realize that if you've never met a black/trans/gay/immigrant person, you probably believe the worst of what Fox tells you. So as the progressive movement, we should give the benefit of the doubt to ppl (e.g. don't make a big deal of pronouns; state your pronoun without shame, but also realize that lots of ppl have zero experience w/ non-traditional pronounce so cut them some slack when they slip up). And find common ground. The biggest thing I learned moving from small-town all-white CT where yes, racism was prevalent to NYC was that wow, we're all basically the same. We all want the same basic freedoms and have the same struggles. Don't let politicians divide us and unite as Americans because we're almost all fucking immigrants.
- Dan_Sylveste 4y ago
  Without being snarky, though, what's left to add? What minority is left disenfranchised?
  - antifa 4y ago
    If you can ignore the incompleteness of black/women/LGBT civil rights movements and the current attacks on black/women/LGBT rights, there's a lot that can be done in things like mental illness (both mild and extreme forms), medical debt, disability, poverty traps, veterans, homeless, prisoners.

lmc 4y ago

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coffeeblack 4y ago