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Social justice for the bald man
- Syzygies 4y agoThe relationship with testosterone is complex; higher levels interplay with a genetically determined follicle sensitivity. That said, my favorite T-shirt ever on the subject was spotted on Fire Island: It's not a bald spot, it's a solar panel for a sex machine.
- markdown 4y agoWhat is this website? What are "accountable posts", slashes, and tokens? EDIT: There is something called Celody, and now I'm listening to music in the hopes of getting tokens. I assume that I'll be able to upvote and downvote articles on the website using these tokens. I have no idea how long I have to listen, or why.
- OJFord 4y agoI think this comment deserves a better reception, it's easy to (over) react to phrases like 'what is this website' that are too common - but in this case there does seem to be something quite unusual, I think it was meant in ernest. Even if not, I think it can be explained in ernest, for those others who are confused by the metadata surrounding the post itself: > This post has reached its slash date. No more votes. > Staked: 922 tokens > Slash Result: NO SLASH > Stakedy is a product from digital people within Celody. Celody is a digital world powered by music. (Celody is a hyperlink, if you follow it it's just far more confusing; not enlightening.)
- presentation 4y agoThe about page [1] seems to explain the system, it’s an interesting concept but it sounds like this would be not suited for controversial posts - just because people don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s bad content. [1] https://stakedy.com/long/how-staking-on-stakedy-works.html https://stakedy.com/long/how-staking-on-stakedy-works.html
- decremental 4y agoA lot of things aren't a big deal unless you make it one. Weird post. It reminds me of the older man who dyes his hair. There's something to be said about confidence and having the dignity to just be comfortable with yourself. You can be bald and not insecure. It goes a long way.
- lolinder 4y agoI think it's meant as satire.
- anotherhue 4y agoUp next: Social Justice for the Short Man, for those with a 'country' accent, for the glasses wearers (in the off-seasons for nerdiness), the straight-up unattractive. They are all real, the question we must contend with is: Are all externally imposed, negatively perceived features, protected from measurement/discrimination? What about age? Can you discriminate towards youthfulness if you will, in your time, become old?
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- Kaedon 4y agoWhy is it that in every post about a problem there's this what-about-ism? We can talk about the issue at hand and then the other ones separately.
- armchairhacker 4y agoThen we have social justice for fat people, dumb people, lazy people, people with anger problems, people with personality disorders, criminals, and so on. Where do we draw the line? I argue we don't draw the line at all. Rather, we treat everyone with compassion and respect, and find / judge everyone on their true strengths and weaknesses (vs. those characteristic of whatever group they belong to). Discrimination is OK when the discriminating trait actually matters - i.e. you wouldn't let an idiot or a hot-headed person control a nuclear warhead or perform brain surgery. Similarly, I have nothing against diversity, but I think portraying people of many ethnicities in a movie whose setting would not have people of all ethnicities is weird and something our current culture gets wrong. But you should not be rude to an idiot or angry person, just like you shouldn't avoid putting ethnic people in general movies (and make sure you actually know your setting, e.g. I recall controversy where black people were in a movie on ancient Greece, but black people actually did exist in Greece at the time). (Also I still think people who commit crimes and are dangerous should be locked up. The point is they are locked up to protect and deter others and possibly reform them, not just for intrinsic punishment.) The issue with the current attitude on social justice is that most people don't fall for prejudice or stereotypes, but don't understand why. You don't just avoid stereotypes because they're often wrong (though a lot truly don't line up with statistics), you avoid them because you don't judge people on their surface, people aren't always what they look like, and most people fail at least one stereotype of a group they belong to if not many more. You don't treat someone with respect because they're black or female, you treat them with respect because they're a decent human. Similarly, you don't mistreat someone whose short or fat or even has something wrong with their head which makes them occasionally annoying. But lots of "social justice advocates" don't realize this and hate towards sides which aren't explicitly "protected". EDIT: There's also the practical situation where you can't save everyone. In that case unfortunately I think whatever disadvantaged or stereotyped groups aren't protected by the current society are out of luck. But while you can't always give everyone tangible aid or a thorough evaluation, you can at least treat everyone with respect and common decency.
- SapporoChris 4y agoNonsense article there are plenty of highly regarded bald men. Easily searchable on the internet. Easily visible on social media. Easily visible on local television.
- neonate 4y agoIt may be nonsense, but not because of that argument, since one could say the same about nearly any disadvantaged group.
- yieldcrv 4y agoDoes this AI generated website also learn from posts on forums about the articles it generates?
- Threeve303 4y agoThis was going to be part of a bad stand up comedy routine I am never going to do. Bald is the last label and category that hasn't had its time to shine. Even actors who have hair take media roles that bald men traditionally have. Like Patrick Stewart being replaced by a dude that has to shave his head to be Professor X. And there is a ton of subtle bald hate in society even to the point of influencing career advancement. That is the same media representation problem other groups have. With all that being said, down with groups and labels. Gotta move on from it as it is too easy for the wealthy class to take our self defined labels and categories and turn everyone against each other. The internet has allowed this process to be amplified.
- ilammy 4y ago> hasn't had its time to shine I see what you did there
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- Threeve303 4y agoOr it is just a way to neutralize years of unnecessary negative energy. Of course bald women have it worse. Did you really create an account to say that? Well more power to ya
- greenthrow 4y ago> Or it is just a way to neutralize years of unnecessary negative energy. That is not an "or" to my comment. I realize that's what you were doing. But by being so narrowly focused on male baldness, it comes off as an incel rant because you come off as ignorant and narcissistic by not addressing the elephant in the room; female baldness. > Of course bald women have it worse. ...and? Again, the main issue is your entire piece not only doesn't mention it but comes off as unaware of it entirely. Or if not unaware, just so self obsessed that it doesn't occur to you. > Did you really create an account to say that? Well more power to ya You could have easily seen this was not the case by going to my profile page. Again, you come off as so self absorbed that you don't bother looking up basic facts that are right at hand. None of this (or my original comment) are meant as a slam. It is intended as constructive criticism. Edit: After skimming your Twitter I now realize you are suffering from mental illness and I sincerely hope you get the help that you need. I apologize for throwing any criticism your way, clearly you are dealing with enough already.
- funnybookbinder 4y agoThis article is unintentional satire. (Speaking as a balding man)
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- panaceaeaea 4y agoIs this article AI generated? Like what even is this website??
- moneywoes 4y agoAlways thought about gpt generated articles guess I’m behind the curve
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- big_curses 4y agoDoesn't look deleted, or do you mean a different one? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31862258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31862258
- justinator 4y agoBeen removed from the Front Page despite the total number of points, which is pretty odd. That's manual manipulation to get that to happen, I would assume.
- leereeves 4y agoThat story is about 36 hours old. Why would you assume there's manual manipulation to remove old stories from HN?
- justinator 4y agoIt's historically important, unlike most stories on HN which seem recently to be about navel gazing outdated hardware. But HN does HN - y'all are millionaires and I understand many topics of actual revelence to the majority don't have much affect on the nouveau bourgeoisie here who are primarily white, male, and straight. I guess I answered my own question. Good luck with being uncomfortable bald. Maybe it's not the baldness you're actually uncomfortable with.
- Barrin92 4y agoI know the post is satire but using baldness as a feature of villains in movies is surprisingly common still. I noticed it watching Dune recently given that the Harkonnens were not even bald (or specifically entirely hairless) in the books or the 1984 movie. I don't think anyone's arguing that it's the worst injustice anyone faces but it is surprisingly often used as a visual shorthand for people lacking humanity, which is pretty nasty.
- steve_adams_86 4y agoAnother theme I’ve seen is that games with a bad, brutish, or scary guy as a protagonist tend to have him be bald. My sample size is too small (just my own limited gaming experience) though so this might not be true if I collected data properly.
- collegeburner 4y agoThat makes sense, the levels of the androgens in "androgenic alopecia" they would have to get that much muscle (and that aggressive) would make Elvis go bald.
- heywoodlh 4y ago> the levels of the androgens in "androgenic alopecia" they would have to get that much muscle (and that aggressive) would make Elvis go bald According to One Punch Man, the following daily exercise routine will make you bald (and more powerful than anyone else in the universe): 100 push-ups 100 sit-ups 100 squats 10 kilometer run
- jimmux 4y agoThat can be a technical choice. Protagonists like these tend to be in games aiming for a more realistic art style, in which it's expensive to render convincing hair.
- mr_toad 4y agoA lot of cartoon villains are ‘masterminds’ and the cartoon image of a scientist or academic is also often an middle aged or older bald man. I’m not sure if hair loss is actually more common among scientists, or if it’s just correlated with age.
- _3u10 4y agoShave your head and grow a goatee
- _8j50 4y agoBalding to men is similar to aging for women. The more attractive folks take it badly because society starts treating them worse.
- metadat 4y ago*the formerly more attractive folks
- steve_adams_86 4y agoI’ve had a few male friends approach me about my baldness and how I manage to live with it. Usually they’re noticing that they’re thinning or their hairline is receding, and they’re genuinely scared about what life will be like. I could take it offensively, but I started balding so early and I’m so used to it that I’m totally over it and I welcome the questions about their fate. It’s a little striking in some cases because people ask as though it must be misery. Like, I’m some kind of misfortune half-person, haha. It’s crazy to imagine asking people about other genetic traits in a similar way, but again, I’m happy to let them know they too will survive baldness.
- at_a_remove 4y agoI mean, some men can pull it off. Most cannot. I know I couldn't. I'm already unattractive as it is, being bald would be brutal. If you have a pronounced jaw, strong features, you can do it. Weak jaw, receding chin, well ... not so much.
- throwaway98797 4y agowould you rather have your hair back or have a six pack one is within your control the other is not. for the vast vast majority of people a six pack will improve their standing in society more than hair
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- xbar 4y agoStanley Tucci told me this, too, and I believe him.
- cylon13 4y agoUnless you have a weird skull
- goodpoint 4y agoMaintaining a sixpack takes very significant effort.
- throwaway98797 4y agoagree, im no where near one myself but as a bald man it helps me know that there are impactful things I could work on vs lamenting what I cant control.
- js2 4y agoI’m 50 and have been using a Wahl clipper to shave my head every few weeks since college. I shave my face twice weekly. I find it all to be a chore. I’d give up all the hair on my head without a second thought if I could. Hair is overrated. On women too. This is a sexy look: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Persis_Khambatta_we_Ilia.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Persis_Khamba...
- moomoo11 4y agoI grew out my hair to my shoulders over the pandemic, and then I shaved it all off. That was the first time in my life I've ever seen myself without any hair, and I accepted that's how I'd look if I were to lose it all. I got a lot of closure from that experience, and while I honestly hope I keep it all for as long as I can, if it goes I can just get a wig and have any hair style I want!
- actually_a_dog 4y agoBald men need to get in line, then. Middle aged men are among the least discriminated against demographic.
- ungamedplayer 4y agoI would imagine that they are the least protected, but there definitely ARE situations that they are clearly a factor of discrimination, if you can't see it, step outside.
- actually_a_dog 4y agoDon't need to. I've got a first hand perspective.
- shp0ngle 4y agoStakedy is auto-generated by AI. (It’s hard to figure out how, it’s some crazy blockchainy thing.) The fact that people don’t recognize that and try to argue the merit of the article here makes me scared.
- nomoreusernames 4y agoyes it seemed like the article was written by my 90s ircbot
- meowtimemania 4y agoThat’s really impressive if it was authored by an AI.
- jstanley 4y agoAre you sure? I read https://stakedy.com/long/how-staking-on-stakedy-works.html https://stakedy.com/long/how-staking-on-stakedy-works.html and it sounds like the articles are (or at least can be) written by people.
- shp0ngle 4y agoI am honestly not sure, but the article are at the same time all exactly the same and weirdly uncanny in how they resemble actual meaningful text, yet contain no actual information or meaning.
- lupire 4y agoThe articles are written by "digital people" based on parameters: https://celody.com/evolution.html https://celody.com/evolution.html
- bryanrasmussen 4y agoIt reminds me of a 'well done' essay by an unimaginative 15 year old honors student. Someone not talented or really smart, but someone able to grind out the work. Maybe not even unimaginative, perhaps they were given a task by the teacher write about a type of prejudice that affects our world and they came up with this as a way to subvert expectations. Although this kind of subverting expectations is also like the lowest level of imagination, which wouldn't matter so much if it were done well. But the essay is boring. Assuming it was written by an adult I would not argue its merits, but make fun of it. Assuming you are correct it is by an AI, which I think you probably are, it's pretty impressive - looking at this page https://stakedy.com/long/how-staking-on-stakedy-works.html https://stakedy.com/long/how-staking-on-stakedy-works.html makes me think you are correct because of what it says at the bottom "Stakedy is a product from digital people within Celody. Celody is a digital world powered by music."
- JohnHaugeland 4y agoThis kind of satire on the eve of the loss of Roe is remarkably poor taste
- 3qz 4y agoObviously correct. Being ugly is much worse than racism in the present day and it’s only going to get worse. Nobody is willing to stand up for ugly people rights.
- brabel 4y agoThe sad thing is that there's not even any hope that anyone will ever want to standup for ugly people, bald people (me), short people etc. No one wants to "admit" openly to belonging to these groups or somehow having reasons to defend them even.
- kstenerud 4y ago> I just searched IMDB's 100 Most Beautiful People on the Planet and 0% of the people listed had "androgenetic alopecia". Zero. Sean Connery, John Wayne, Bruce Willis, Vin Diesel, Jason Statham. For men, "beautiful" and "sexy" come from the projection of power. Fat men are sexy when food is scarce. The Japanese chonmage hairstyle was a reverence to the older, more accomplished fighters (who often had male pattern baldness).
- drbojingle 4y agoSaitama would surely agree with the headline
- iJohnDoe 4y agoIt has nothing to do with being bald or short or tall or anything else. It has to do with other people needing to define their own self worth based on someone else’s traits. Someone is bald and you have tons of hair. Boom, you feel better about yourself. You are super tall so you must be better than anyone else. Don’t define your self worth based on other people. Base it on yourself and the life you are living.
- sumedh 4y agoOther people consider you to be a leader if you are tall, you will literally get treated better or get access to better opportunities if you are tall or beautiful. Short and ugly people don't enjoy the same advantage so it's not just feelings.
- mariorojas 4y agoAs a Mexican mid-class bald, I can confirm we are seen with some kind of disrespect. You have to get money, attitude or being smart to get some authority.
- cvccvroomvroom 4y agoThe fundamental flaw with this platform is the belief that there is "unbiased" or "uncontroversial" writing. Also, it assumes all other actors are benevolent and not conspiring against those they disagree with or view as their enemies to brigade or otherwise game the platform to their advantage.