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The US just took away the constitutional right to bodily autonomy. That kind of internal oppression of ones own citizens is absolutely beyond terrifying, and ob

The US just took away the constitutional right to bodily autonomy. That kind of internal oppression of ones own citizens is absolutely beyond terrifying, and obviously a bigger worry for social stability. Europe is not at war. War in Ukraine is due to an external force that affects barely anybody in Europe. What a bizarre nationalistic reply this is, to be so insecure about the landmass you happen to live on.

drstewart 4y ago
>The US just took away the constitutional right to bodily autonomy. Can you point to, say, the UK's constitutional right to bodily autonomy so I can compare? I assume that there will be one as not having a strong constitution guaranteeing these rights is massive internal oppression that is very scary. Also: speaking of the UK and taking away its citizens rights... ever hear of Brexit? >Europe is not at war. War in Ukraine is due to an external force that affects barely anybody in Europe Ukraine is not in Europe? Also, the original commenter claimed inflation were a result of war and pandemic. So does it affect people or not? >What a bizarre nationalistic reply this is, to be so insecure about the landmass you happen to live on. I agree, the Europeans in this thread are bizarrely nationalistic. My sense is that there's a large contingent of political redditors in here.
- eertami 4y ago
  People are mostly just pointing out the very objective losses to quality of life in the US compared to Europe, which is a fair answer to the original question. And day to day quality of life has nothing to do with geopolitics for most people. US just simply ranks far lower than Central Europe and the Nordics in these measurements. A lot of it is just city planning and infrastructure.
  - seibelj 4y ago
    Norway has 5 million people, insane gas reserves, is a monoculture of ethnically similar people, has basically no immigration to speak of, and owns 2% of every publicly traded country worth a damn. I can’t believe anyone would point to this country smaller than a single metro area of the USA as something that is replicable.
    - Daishiman 4y ago
      Ok, take Spain. Quality of life there is just substantially better than pretty much all of the US.
      - seibelj 4y ago
        guerrilla 4y ago
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        Can you name a country who hasn't done bad things?
        guerrilla 4y ago
        Can you name another country that's done bad things to other countries for every year of its existence aside from a decade?
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        UK
        guerrilla 4y ago
        Well, that was the British Empire, but I'll give it to you... fair enough.
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        The UK has continued doing bad things. So has almost every country.
- hactually 4y ago
  Take a look at the Abortion Act 1967 if you're acting in good faith.
seibelj 4y ago
Europe has a patchwork of abortion laws and generally are far more restrictive than the US, which in many places you can abort very late term. While I support a woman’s right to abort up to a point, the issue is now devolving to the states and ideally will result in less national strife, as it was an arbitrary litmus test for presidential candidates. I live in Boston and groups here are flying women in and shipping pills out to abort their babies. Acting like it’s a dystopian nightmare because of the Roe overturn is hyperbolic.
lazide 4y ago
1) there was never a federal constitutional right to an abortion. Everyone historically knew Roe vs Wade was a stopgap with tortured reasoning in the actual judgement. There is nothing in the constitution that says ‘rights to whatever medical procedures you want’, or even abortion. Instead the presumption is that everything not mentioned is left to the People and the States to regulate. 2) this ruling doesn’t change that for the states most people live in, Abortion is still legal, and has been legal. And hopefully folks in the other states get less complacent and make their voices heard. It’s a devolution of the issue to the states. Which sucks for a lot of folks, especially young women with few options. But it isn’t banning abortion nation wide or anything. If anything, this is now way more like Europe.
lttlrck 4y ago
"barely anybody in Europe" Nice.

drstewart 4y ago

>The US just took away the constitutional right to bodily autonomy. Can you point to, say, the UK's constitutional right to bodily autonomy so I can compare? I assume that there will be one as not having a strong constitution guaranteeing these rights is massive internal oppression that is very scary. Also: speaking of the UK and taking away its citizens rights... ever hear of Brexit? >Europe is not at war. War in Ukraine is due to an external force that affects barely anybody in Europe Ukraine is not in Europe? Also, the original commenter claimed inflation were a result of war and pandemic. So does it affect people or not? >What a bizarre nationalistic reply this is, to be so insecure about the landmass you happen to live on. I agree, the Europeans in this thread are bizarrely nationalistic. My sense is that there's a large contingent of political redditors in here.

eertami 4y ago
People are mostly just pointing out the very objective losses to quality of life in the US compared to Europe, which is a fair answer to the original question. And day to day quality of life has nothing to do with geopolitics for most people. US just simply ranks far lower than Central Europe and the Nordics in these measurements. A lot of it is just city planning and infrastructure.
- seibelj 4y ago
  Norway has 5 million people, insane gas reserves, is a monoculture of ethnically similar people, has basically no immigration to speak of, and owns 2% of every publicly traded country worth a damn. I can’t believe anyone would point to this country smaller than a single metro area of the USA as something that is replicable.
  - Daishiman 4y ago
    Ok, take Spain. Quality of life there is just substantially better than pretty much all of the US.
    - seibelj 4y ago
      - guerrilla 4y ago
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        Can you name a country who hasn't done bad things?
        guerrilla 4y ago
        Can you name another country that's done bad things to other countries for every year of its existence aside from a decade?
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        UK
        guerrilla 4y ago
        Well, that was the British Empire, but I'll give it to you... fair enough.
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        The UK has continued doing bad things. So has almost every country.
hactually 4y ago
Take a look at the Abortion Act 1967 if you're acting in good faith.

seibelj 4y ago

Europe has a patchwork of abortion laws and generally are far more restrictive than the US, which in many places you can abort very late term. While I support a woman’s right to abort up to a point, the issue is now devolving to the states and ideally will result in less national strife, as it was an arbitrary litmus test for presidential candidates. I live in Boston and groups here are flying women in and shipping pills out to abort their babies. Acting like it’s a dystopian nightmare because of the Roe overturn is hyperbolic.

lazide 4y ago

1) there was never a federal constitutional right to an abortion. Everyone historically knew Roe vs Wade was a stopgap with tortured reasoning in the actual judgement. There is nothing in the constitution that says ‘rights to whatever medical procedures you want’, or even abortion. Instead the presumption is that everything not mentioned is left to the People and the States to regulate. 2) this ruling doesn’t change that for the states most people live in, Abortion is still legal, and has been legal. And hopefully folks in the other states get less complacent and make their voices heard. It’s a devolution of the issue to the states. Which sucks for a lot of folks, especially young women with few options. But it isn’t banning abortion nation wide or anything. If anything, this is now way more like Europe.

lttlrck 4y ago

"barely anybody in Europe" Nice.