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Is part of the story missing on how google eventually accepted the fake dmca requests? Seems like at some point google slipped up or else this wouldn’t have got

Is part of the story missing on how google eventually accepted the fake dmca requests? Seems like at some point google slipped up or else this wouldn’t have gotten so out of hand

spondyl 4y ago
> Is part of the story missing on how google eventually accepted the fake dmca requests? There isn't really a story here. YouTube just kind of blindly accepts any and all DMCAs regardless of whether the claimant has legitimate ownership or not. Here's an excerpt from the court filing: > Ninety-six separate times, Minor used his fake “CSC” Gmail addresses to exploit the hole in YouTube’s DMCA-process security that allows anyone at all to claim to be representing a rights holder for purposes of issuing a takedown, with no real safeguards against fraud. I'd note that they refer to it as "the" hole https://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/483729/google_submission_hammers_section_92a/ https://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/483729/google_submission_h... > In its submission, Google notes that more than half (57%) of the takedown notices it has received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act 1998, were sent by business targeting competitors and over one third (37%) of notices were not valid copyright claims.
- cowvin 4y ago
  wow 57% and 37% are awful. it's almost as if the system shouldn't be automated.
- tadfisher 4y ago
  That is what is required under the DMCA, though. YouTube must remove content immediately after receiving a notice, under penalty of losing safe-harbor privileges. In turn, the claimant must represent themselves as the copyright holder or their agent, and the content must be infringing, under penalty of liability for the accused's costs and attorney fees. The law does not make a provision for YouTube to reject bogus claims.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    If it's a bogus claim then they don't need safe harbor for it...
- noptd 4y ago
  > There isn't really a story here. YouTube just kind of blindly accepts any and all DMCAs regardless of whether the claimant has legitimate ownership or not. Sounds like a compelling story to me.
bzzli 4y ago
YT requires you to use a gmail address to submit DMCA claims, instead of a corporate domain that can be verified. There are no ID requirements, either.

Is part of the story missing on how google eventually accepted the fake dmca requests? Seems like at some point google slipped up or else this wouldn’t have gotten so out of hand

spondyl 4y ago

> Is part of the story missing on how google eventually accepted the fake dmca requests? There isn't really a story here. YouTube just kind of blindly accepts any and all DMCAs regardless of whether the claimant has legitimate ownership or not. Here's an excerpt from the court filing: > Ninety-six separate times, Minor used his fake “CSC” Gmail addresses to exploit the hole in YouTube’s DMCA-process security that allows anyone at all to claim to be representing a rights holder for purposes of issuing a takedown, with no real safeguards against fraud. I'd note that they refer to it as "the" hole https://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/483729/google_submission_hammers_section_92a/ https://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/483729/google_submission_h... > In its submission, Google notes that more than half (57%) of the takedown notices it has received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act 1998, were sent by business targeting competitors and over one third (37%) of notices were not valid copyright claims.

cowvin 4y ago
wow 57% and 37% are awful. it's almost as if the system shouldn't be automated.
tadfisher 4y ago
That is what is required under the DMCA, though. YouTube must remove content immediately after receiving a notice, under penalty of losing safe-harbor privileges. In turn, the claimant must represent themselves as the copyright holder or their agent, and the content must be infringing, under penalty of liability for the accused's costs and attorney fees. The law does not make a provision for YouTube to reject bogus claims.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  If it's a bogus claim then they don't need safe harbor for it...
noptd 4y ago
> There isn't really a story here. YouTube just kind of blindly accepts any and all DMCAs regardless of whether the claimant has legitimate ownership or not. Sounds like a compelling story to me.

bzzli 4y ago

YT requires you to use a gmail address to submit DMCA claims, instead of a corporate domain that can be verified. There are no ID requirements, either.