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Why is this ‘insane’? A woman’s body is her property. A fetus is part of the woman’s body. Whatever medical procedure she does with her body is her right. And

Why is this ‘insane’? A woman’s body is her property. A fetus is part of the woman’s body. Whatever medical procedure she does with her body is her right. And companies are willing to provide for her medical care.

nikolqy 4y ago
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > The fetus is a human who has the right to their body as well. An intruder is a human who has a right to their own body, but if they are in your house without your consent, you can evict them. But, apparently, not if they are in your womb.
  - nikolqy 4y ago
    You can’t kill them though. People have the right to life, it’s even international law. It’s not an intruder if you expected it and 100% had the full power to stop it. Reckless behavior is no excuse for abortion. Just like reckless driving. You don’t support reckless driving that causes death, so why support reckless sex?
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > You can’t kill them though. You can remove them from your house and let them starve on the street when they wanted to eat the food from your refrigerator. But apparently not if they literally were consuming your body.
    - moistly 4y ago
      The fetus is not a "people" and you're an absolutely irredeemable idiot if you think reckless behaviour is the sole cause of the desire for abortion. "Girl, 11, pregnant with twins after being ‘raped by her stepfather’ demands an abortion" https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18994366/girl-11-pregnant-twins-raped-stepfather-abortion/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18994366/girl-11-pregnant-twin...
      - quantified 4y ago
        Pretty reckless of her to be born into that family, don't you think? Also pretty reckless to miscarry in the wrong way, elsewhere in the news.
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    - quantified 4y ago
      You can remove unwanted tumors and organs. Is your body sovereign or not?
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    - jleyank 4y ago
      No you can kill them in stand your ground states just fine.
- ss108 4y ago
  For the record, I think both you and the person you're replying to hold extreme, unreasonable views on the subject, though you moreso, and your comments are well-spiced with crackpot notions as well. And I think the bulk of American people would agree with me on both counts.
- dekhn 4y ago
  This sort of argumentation is not welcome on Hacker News. You're just sort of spouting opinions, not making reasoned arguments. It contributes nothing to the conversation, and frankly, the majority of users don't agree with your premise, or your conclusions even if they agree with the premise. I worked at Google and my paternity benefits were fine and I wouldn't even consider them in the same category as benefits for abortion.
- quantified 4y ago
  Govs are here to support population growth? Hope you like living in a world covered by tall apartment blocks eating algae. More than enough people already, quality of life is not improved by more.
- moistly 4y ago
  > The fetus is a human who has the right to their body as well Please point to the legal code that supports this claim. You can’t. The fetus has no rights. It is not a person under the law. Never has been. Several religions quite clearly support abortion, e.g. Judaism, United Church of Christ, Buddhism, Hinduism, varieties of Islam. You have no grounds whatsoever for your claim.

nikolqy 4y ago

dragonwriter 4y ago
> The fetus is a human who has the right to their body as well. An intruder is a human who has a right to their own body, but if they are in your house without your consent, you can evict them. But, apparently, not if they are in your womb.
- nikolqy 4y ago
  You can’t kill them though. People have the right to life, it’s even international law. It’s not an intruder if you expected it and 100% had the full power to stop it. Reckless behavior is no excuse for abortion. Just like reckless driving. You don’t support reckless driving that causes death, so why support reckless sex?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > You can’t kill them though. You can remove them from your house and let them starve on the street when they wanted to eat the food from your refrigerator. But apparently not if they literally were consuming your body.
  - moistly 4y ago
    The fetus is not a "people" and you're an absolutely irredeemable idiot if you think reckless behaviour is the sole cause of the desire for abortion. "Girl, 11, pregnant with twins after being ‘raped by her stepfather’ demands an abortion" https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18994366/girl-11-pregnant-twins-raped-stepfather-abortion/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18994366/girl-11-pregnant-twin...
    - quantified 4y ago
      Pretty reckless of her to be born into that family, don't you think? Also pretty reckless to miscarry in the wrong way, elsewhere in the news.
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  - quantified 4y ago
    You can remove unwanted tumors and organs. Is your body sovereign or not?
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - jleyank 4y ago
    No you can kill them in stand your ground states just fine.
ss108 4y ago
For the record, I think both you and the person you're replying to hold extreme, unreasonable views on the subject, though you moreso, and your comments are well-spiced with crackpot notions as well. And I think the bulk of American people would agree with me on both counts.
dekhn 4y ago
This sort of argumentation is not welcome on Hacker News. You're just sort of spouting opinions, not making reasoned arguments. It contributes nothing to the conversation, and frankly, the majority of users don't agree with your premise, or your conclusions even if they agree with the premise. I worked at Google and my paternity benefits were fine and I wouldn't even consider them in the same category as benefits for abortion.
quantified 4y ago
Govs are here to support population growth? Hope you like living in a world covered by tall apartment blocks eating algae. More than enough people already, quality of life is not improved by more.
moistly 4y ago
> The fetus is a human who has the right to their body as well Please point to the legal code that supports this claim. You can’t. The fetus has no rights. It is not a person under the law. Never has been. Several religions quite clearly support abortion, e.g. Judaism, United Church of Christ, Buddhism, Hinduism, varieties of Islam. You have no grounds whatsoever for your claim.