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Not sure why you were downvoted, this is exactly how I and many friends I talk to feel.
by Bhilai 4y ago
Not sure why you were downvoted, this is exactly how I and many friends I talk to feel.
- mschuster91 4y agoHN in general tends to be on the pacifist, anti-militarist, technology-solves-everything side. Which is a pretty decent thing in general, don't get me wrong, but dogmatic followers of such attitudes got us Trump, the invasion of Ukraine and now this shit. Si vis pacem para bellum, and there will be war. I honestly am unable to think of a scenario that will prevent a collapse of at least the US democracy, if not the rest of the world with it (because let's face it, the US picked up the tab to ensure the freedom of democracies while us Europeans stood aside). The only thing capable of stopping the spiral towards death is if the Democrats win a solid majority in November... but that is completely unrealistic.
- edmcnulty101 4y ago
- marak830 4y agoWow that's really a thing? From the outside we all saw your Republicans drop the ball then the democrats try to pick it up.
- edmcnulty101 4y ago[flagged]
- fsociety 4y agoI’d agree with you only if it was law that hospitals must turn you away if you are unvaccinated but deathly ill with COVID. That would be a horrible thing, however the difference here is that not being vaccinated does affect other people in a pandemic. Getting an abortion does not overload hospitals in the same way.
- edmcnulty101 4y agoI had no bodily autonomy during COVID. I have less than zero sympathy.
- JabavuAdams 4y agoNo one is an island. You can't have total bodily autonomy if you want to live around other humans. It's an unreasonable and selfish stance. If you want to self-isolate in the woods, fine. We should have a way for people to do that. There are a number of technical reasons why the mRNA vaccines should be safer than existing vaccines. In any case, there were non mRNA alternatives. I believe that most life-scientists are just curious and trying to do good work. I don't really trust corporate big (whatever), but pharma in this case. I do trust the individual scientists I know to be caring and empathetic people and to do their best to save lives.
- edmcnulty101 4y ago> No one is an island. You can't have total bodily autonomy if you want to live around other humans This is the exact argument the conservatives have against abortion.
- anigbrowl 4y agoThat doesn't sell your outlook well, since neither pregnancies nor abortions are contagious.
- edmcnulty101 4y agoContagious things that kill people = no bodily autonomy Non-Contagious Things that that kill people = bodily autonomy. Sounds arbitrary. My body my choice right?
- anigbrowl 4y agoNo, it doesn't sound arbitrary. It sounds predicated on the possibility for contagion, an objectively measurable event. This is why various tests/vaccinations mandatory for immigrants, eg to prevent the spread of TB. Also, fetuses aren't people in legal terms.
- wcfields 4y agoI think the bait & switch on those $2000 stimulus checks that became $1400 really pissed a lot of people off.
- edmcnulty101 4y ago[flagged]
- dang 4y agoCould you please stop posting in the flamewar style and using HN for political/ideological battle? We're trying for a different kind of conversation here. Specifically, intellectually curious conversation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: we've had to ask you about this multiple times already. We ban accounts that keep doing it, so please don't.
- edmcnulty101 4y agoHere's a few flame war style comments as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31873367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31873367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31872895 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31872895 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31871515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31871515
- mahkeiro 4y agoYou know that repeating the same flawed argument over dozens of comments doesn't make it any better?
- edmcnulty101 4y agoyou know that saying it's a flawed argument without providing reasons or an argument of your own doesn't make it a flawed argument?
- mutant 4y agoI see your talking points newsletter is being put to good use
- edmcnulty101 4y agoTalking points? Ok thanks for the unconstructive sarcasm. You should see the site guidelines. Well know if I'm right in November.
- sitkack 4y agoYou have so much right and the trot out this doozie > US picked up the tab to ensure the freedom of democracies while us Europeans stood aside Cite! The US does anything it wants to keep corporate power corporate. We topple lots of democracies. US is squarely imperialist. See my comment about Smedley Butler from earlier, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31469671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31469671
- HWR_14 4y agoThey're clearly talking about since WWII. When the US has definitely picked up the tab to ensure freedom for Europeans, Taiwanese, Japanese, Koreans, and former English colonies throughout the world. Sure, the US was somewhat imperialist a century ago, but that's long gone.
- sitkack 4y agoYou are spouting nonsense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
- HWR_14 4y agoI think we're in agreement about post WWII. The US was invited into Europe and paid a lot of money to hold off the Russians. It protected the Taiwanese, Koreans and Japanese. That's pretty much what I said.
- lenkite 4y agoSorry, as a non-American, I see the US has always been an imperialist nation that has encouraged regime changes whenever and wherever it felt its influence threatened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... I used to be a pro-American when I was a child blinded by US propaganda and television. Americans are heroes are what I always thought.! Then the Iraq, Afghanistan wars, the coups in Libya and the Syrian War - encouraged via Obama's so-called 'moderate rapist rebels' completely changed my mind. What CNN said was completely different from what my Libyan and Syrian colleagues said. So Much Lying. It was around that time I did extensive reading of American history and realised I was a moron.
- zarathustreal 4y ago[flagged]
- mschuster91 4y agoI explicitly wrote from an European POV. Stuff like not having mandatory and functional health insurance... even our far right doesn't want to question that.
- FooBarBizBazz 4y agoIt's just different. The American "left" has mostly abandoned economic issues, but it's gone much further on identity than the European left has. Like, I'd vote for a Euro-style leftist because they'd maybe give Americans healthcare, but they'd probably get called racist if they opened their mouth on Twitter. It's just a different world.
- iostream24 4y agoCenter right, by global standards. Maybe your views have been distorted by right wing news calling Biden “far left” which is an objective falsehood. I’ve seen over half the nations on earth and I stand behind the OP assessment of the US Dem party as center right. Do investigate a bit before knee jerk responding from a position of falsehood
- pseudo0 4y ago
- austinjp 4y agoAah come on. Nobody said the Democrats are "adjacent" to stoning women. Sheesh. From the perspective of a country that is to the left of the Democrats, yes, they appear centre-right. I'm not sure you've can offer a truly global perspective from which to accurately determine whether the US Gov is left or right leaning, but if I had to predict such an answer I'd say it would tip right. Edit: okay, did some hunting and found this: https://archive.ph/PjNEF https://archive.ph/PjNEF Check the bubble chart. The Dems are in fact globally left-leaning, according to the Manifesto Project described in the article. But check the relative positions from e.g. a British perspective (since that happens to be shown in the chart). The Dems are to the right of the UK's left-wing Labour Party, while the Republicans are right of the right-wing Conservatives. The overall British perspective of the US would be of a right-leaning country. I've not looked at other perspectives since I'm in mobile and I've not going to deep-dive the Manifesto Project just now. But I wonder which are the nations which have an "overall" perspective of the US as left-leaning?