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In mice.
by agnosticmantis 4y ago
In mice.
- marcofatica 4y agoAw rats
- B1FF_PSUVM 4y ago"Research causes cancer in rats", as the canard goes.
- themitigating 4y agoAnother reason rodents are used as models in medical testing is that their genetic, biological and behavior characteristics closely resemble those of humans, and many symptoms of human conditions can be replicated in mice and rats. "Rats and mice are mammals that share many processes with humans" https://www.livescience.com/32860-why-do-medical-researchers-use-mice.html https://www.livescience.com/32860-why-do-medical-researchers...
- jraph 4y agoOkay, many of us know this. This "in mice" should still be specified in the title.
- xwdv 4y agoThey are still mice nonetheless.
- Broken_Hippo 4y agoSure, but many of us are aware that rodent tests have flaws even when they share processes with humans: You know, things like drugs for x condition (present in both rodents and humans) is processed different in the bodies. It is prudent to remember that rodent studies are simply preliminary and often unavoidable if you want to eventually test on humans. Hence, the request to add "in mice" to a title.
- joe_the_user 4y agoThat complaint is reasonable when some headline makes some simple result sound like a possible cure for some dread condition. When it's just complaining about an article that's simply general biological research, it becomes annoying.
- rullelito 4y ago
- layer8 4y agoIt’s become a meme: https://twitter.com/justsaysinmice https://twitter.com/justsaysinmice
- jonsen 4y agoLet's be mice to each other.
- the_biot 4y agoThe comment is factual and relevant, in either case. The annoyance is entirely yours.
- rfrey 4y agoIt's also solidly what HN calls a "middlebrow dismissal."
- dundarious 4y agoAgreed, I regularly make comments about how the latest "eating X shown to improve Y" study is effectively an irrelevant guide for your own behavior when it's "just shown in mice". People think they, as a human, should copy a diet that probably doesn't even work in several mice strains, and has a reasonably high chance of never working in humans. So saying "in mice" is a way of saying "maybe don't change your grocery list just yet", which is sensible. But there's nothing in this article that purports to guide/influence the behavior of a member of the general public who wants to promote hair growth. It's just research.
- m348e912 4y agoWhen it comes to mice, some are more equal than others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanized_mouse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanized_mouse