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> No one is going to pick your pocket I can't fathom this. I cannot imagine a world in which passed out drunk guy doesn't get audited in his sleep.
by 0des 4y ago
> No one is going to pick your pocket
I can't fathom this. I cannot imagine a world in which passed out drunk guy doesn't get audited in his sleep.
- thrownblown 4y agoyou have never been to tokyo on friday night/saturday morning. business dudes sleeping it off on benches are not uncommon at all.
- anonymoushn 4y agoFor whatever reason we were in Ginza on a Tuesday at like 2pm, and already two salarymen were carrying their boss who was clearly incapable of walking back to the office
- 0des 4y agoIt's on my list of places to go. For now, all I have is PaoloFromTokyo, which is family friendly so there isn't much nightlife content. I had no idea there was this level of public good will.
- thrownblown 4y agothat was one of the things that surprised me on an early saturday bike ride, also in regards to street crime in japan, at least in my experience it is so exceedingly rare that most people there are incredibly naive to it.
- 0des 4y agoWhat street dangers are there?
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- armada651 4y agoYou don't have to fear getting mugged in the streets, but you can still get ripped off. One example are the notoriously expensive bars in Roppongi, at night there will be touts in the streets trying to convince tourists to join them for a night of drinking. They'll then go to the bar that hired those touts where, after a night of drinking, the tourists will be presented with a bill that's the equivalent of getting robbed.
- 0des 4y agoJust curious, how much are we talking here? Sometimes out here the bar tab can get up to 300-400 for 2, especially if you order bottle service, since the law states they can only sell per drink and not full bottles.
- snlnspc 4y agoThousands (USD) for a drink or two, tens of thousands for a bottle or two. It's a very well known scam in some parts of Tokyo, and similar forms exist in many parts of the world. Long and short, don't let someone on the street talk you into going into a bar or tea shop or whatever, and especially don't follow them to a second location.
- 0des 4y agowow sweet jesus, they get away with that?
- ethbr0 4y agoThat was my experience in Japan and Thailand. The line for "acceptable robbery" was "no physical violence" + "someone consensually gives me their money." Which is still possible (and easily doable if that mark is drunk), but is substantially different from American (and European?) style physical robbery.
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- Tijdreiziger 4y agoIn that case, you might also be interested in Tokyo Lens, TAKASHii from Japan, That Japanese Man Yuta and Let's ask Shogo, all on YouTube. Dogen is also highly recommended.
- robot9000 4y agoMaybe in California, but it's a lot less likely in the civilized world.
- 0des 4y agoIt's not the civilized world, but here in the south you'll wake up with a racoon in your pocket making off with your Dentyne Ice and a flock of mosquitos airlifting a liter of O-positive.
- Phrenzy 4y agoThat's doesn't sound like a big deal. I don't really care for that type of gum and that isn't even close to my blood type.
- drdeadringer 4y ago> audited I've not before seen this word used to substitute for being checked over for being robbed.
- plainnoodles 4y agoI don't usually actually laugh at HN comments, but when I read "audited" in this context, I did. I don't know why, but this kind of tongue-in-cheek use of a more "sophisticated" word to refer to something mundane like robbery is my kind of humor.
- SEJeff 4y agoFor all of the "freedom" we have as Americans, there are many areas much of the rest of the western world does things better. Not getting political, but just factually... check out gun violence statistics next.
- IncRnd 4y agoCheck out knife statistics in China. They don't have school shootings but mass school knifings.
- fellowniusmonk 4y agoA cursory google pulled this wikipedia article up (linked below), and it makes it seem like mass knifings are generally rare and generally less destructive compared to north american shootings. Do you have an article or graph (per capita or absolute) of deaths comparing the two countries you could point to for more info? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China
- helloworld11 4y agoGun violence stats in the U.S. have little to do with easy legal access to guns itself. Other factors, especially demographic ones, influence. Note that many states with very light gun laws have little gun homicide, other states with strict gun laws have high gun homicide rates and sometimes it's completely vice versa. Furthermore, if you look at the FBI's uniform crime statistics, the picture gets a bit clearer still, showing that the vast majority of gun crime happens in very specific areas of certain cities and particularly occurs among the African American community. I'm simply stating the numbers as they appear here, not making any judgments on any ethnic group per se. People love to point at the U.S and its gun crimes as a direct result of the country's gun laws in particular, but overall, when certain very specific factors, population areas and very specific geographic regions are excluded, much of the country where guns of all kinds are easily available is barely more violent than your typical Western European country. The school shootings that people refer to are awful things, but statistically, they don't move any needle so much as an iota. They do however get enormous amounts of media attention. Other countries with very strict gun laws also have mass shootings and mass killings, both with guns and without guns, but again, less media focus because it doesn't fit certain narratives about the U.S being violent as hell because of gun posession.
- limaoscarjuliet 4y agoOh yes, drunk businessmen sleeping around JR stations because they did not make it for the train to come home for the night are treated as holy cows in India. Full respect, including Police.
- 2143 4y ago> I can't fathom this. I'm told that in northern Europe you could leave your laptops or whatever in semi-public places (like, cafès I suppose), and if you come back after a few hours it would still be there. Can northern Europeans confirm or deny this?
- flimflamm 4y agoDepends. Usually yes. Also wallet return rates are high / Finland.
- 2143 4y agoThat's cool. Where I'm at when people (like, taxi drivers) do bother to return lost-and-found wallets, it's newsworthy enough to make its way to the newspaper. That should tell you the status quo here.
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- asutekku 4y agoIn Finland, I wouldn’t leave my staff for half an hour but definitely can leave my stuff if I go to a toilet for example.
- juahan 4y agoHaving lived in Norway and Finland, I’d say it would be very likely that you would get your items back. And if there would be contact details, someone would have most likely tried to call you before the few hours would be up. Would more or less the same in actual public spaces as well.
- twawaaay 4y agoI lived in Sweden for a little bit, traveling around and into Norway and I can confirm this, at least partly. Where it is not true is in large cities. Small cities and rural areas are one of the safest places on Earth as long as you don't get nibbled by a moose or overrun by ants.
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- moomoo11 4y agoJapan is awesome. I’m a brown guy and went to Japan and I had the mistaken thought that I would feel like an outsider. I couldn’t be farther from the reality. Japanese people are so kind and welcoming, and their cities and towns are beautiful, safe, and clean. Just a simple hello led to some amazing conversations, and I felt as if I was living at the edge of the future because we talked by passing our phones to each other. Google translate enabled us to have real time conversations and get to know about each other. I met an old man who gave me my Japanese name and dropped some wisdom. A businessman and I shared our thoughts on life and family over a late night off the map hole in the wall type of seafood ramen place. Ran into some people at a bar who happened to work in the same industry as me and we shared stories over beers. When I missed my bus in a remote town, a family reopened their restaurant and cooked a meal for me. I was there for only a few weeks, and I wish I could move permanently to Japan. If any Japanese company or entrepreneur wants to hire me as a software engineer manager or as a co-founder, hit me up!
- noboostforyou 4y agoRiding the bullet train from Kyoto to Osaka, accidentally left my iPhone in the seatback pocket. Didn't realize it until way later, but was able to use find my phone to see that it was still powered on and had made its way all the way to the end of the line. Went to the local train station's lost and found, they called the other station where the phone had been turned in. They shipped it to where we were staying. I can't imagine ever getting my iphone back like that in the US.
- Fomite 4y agoMy wife left her Kindle on a United Airlines flight, and two days of searching later, they found it and shipped it to us. A friend left an iPad on a flight. That was shipped back to him as well, albeit with a dick drawn on the screen in sharpie.
- darkwater 4y agoYou usually (there are some exceptions) don't hop off and on planes. With trains is the norm, so you simply cannot compare the anecdotes.
- baisq 4y agoHomogenous and wealthy society, basically.
- WheatM 4y ago